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[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

love the 28,326,000 to 126,891,000 range, just absolutely adore it. You'd think 100 million people wouldnt just fucking disappear without any trace, the fucking nazis went hard on death camps and left massive amounts of evidence. Did Stalin drop all the people into hammerspace? Did Lenin personally shove every single person into a bag of holding??

the fucking victims of communism book has been a disaster for the human race stalin-gun-1stalin-gun-2

[–] anaesidemus@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

I think a good chunk of that number is everyone who died on the eastern front in WW2, yes even the Nazis

[–] huf@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the entire population of the SU was <300M just before the fall... the only way you could get something like 126M is if you just count everyone that died of old age or ww2...

so i guess the source must be the victims of communism foundation.

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

Even better is that those numbers include non-births. Like they're using the same logic that anti-abortion nuts use.

When a western nation has stabilizing birth rates it's a sign of progress, but when the soviet's went through the same process, every reduction in birthrate was extrapolated over it's whole history as "victims".

[–] LeZero@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

6 million is the number of Jews killed in the Holocaust, maybe let's not forget (again and again) about the Roma people, the homosexuals, the communists, the soviets POW as well as civilians and the disabled people (and probably other groups I forgot) who got killed as well

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

And half of these 6 million Jews were Soviet citizens.

[–] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

To add a couple of related facts: German POWs captured by the Soviets had a death rate of 14%, Soviet POWs of the Germans had a death rate of 54% - and Soviet POWs were the first people killed in the gas chambers of Auschwitz.

Jewish deaths in the Holocaust cannot be disentangled from Germany's colonial extermination campaign against the peoples of the Soviet Union.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IIRC the number becomes ~12m if you factor in the other groups?

[–] LeZero@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've read 17 million victims if you factor every group

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

IIRC it's ~12 million captive civilians and ~17 million captives including both civilians and POWs. Counting non-captives killed by the Nazis sends the number up over 30 million AFAIK.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Literally every single european theatre casuality in WWII is on the nazis.

[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

one of the most noticeable impacts of inflation is what it's doing to communism death tolls over the years. experts say that we'll be at 150 million deaths from communism by the end of 2025 if historical interest rates are not increased

[–] nemoTheCatfish@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

the line must go up but instead it's the number of "communist-related fatalities" since the 1880s

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago
[–] plinky@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

My man, with that error range you can't write such precision, D-.

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

If you think about it, the demographic transition is responsible for tens of billions of deaths. very-normal

[–] sisatici@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Cool, now let's count how many deaths USA has caused

[–] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

In 1929, a failed attempt at imposing unfair regulation on free business by the Hooverist regime caused a widespread economic collapse known as "The Great Depression". This event caused widespread losses in standard of living as many citizens were unable to find work or afford basic necessities

This loss of standard of living was exacerbated in 1934 when the Rooseveltist regime implemented failed farming policies resulting in multiple droughts known today as the "Dust Bowl", widely known as an attempted genocide by the Rooseveltist regime against the farmer class

Despite the history of these two events being known, the rogue "republic" of the United States continues to deny any deaths caused by these policy failures. Occasionally in their propaganda they will admit that a "few Wall Street investors" may have died, but this is simply disinformation

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No those were all personal moral failings.

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

All those deaths were commies, so they don't count.

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

people don't talk about [random vague bullshit] but instead [talk about the Holocaust]

Holocaust Trivialization is a type of Holocaust Denial.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

If the soviets lost the war, they would’ve been exterminated and the Nazi reputation would still be given to the Nazis, except this time everyone celebrates and encourages Germany to keep going.

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

I'll have you know my 80 million death count (+/- 50 million) is a very reliable number.