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[–] CaptainHowdy@lemm.ee 50 points 1 year ago (10 children)

While I can understand the sentiment, this is a REALLY bad and irresponsible thing to do and detrimental to yourself and society as a whole.

Lemmy, please do everything you can to set yourself up for a successful retirement. Even just a small contribution to a retirement account really will make a big difference when you're older.

[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

How TF am I supposed to do that?!! I can hardly eat.

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[–] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Fun fact: you can withdraw from your 401k. While there is a hefty tax penalty, you still can do it. Maybe you can get a down payment on a house or pay off student loan debt. Just make sure you withhold taxes from your payout. Don't get caught with that bill at tax season

Especially handy if you have a job with good matching and instant vesting. Of course, this is not finacial advice, but it is an option that exists.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

You can use $10k from your 401k for a down payment on a house with zero penalty. If you're married, then your spouse can do the same. So now you have $20k for a house down payment! With an FHA loan you can buy with as little as 3.5% down, which your $20k should cover. Weee!

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Bold of you to think we all have 401ks.

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[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I quietly take a truly unhealthy regimen of stimulants before I go to the gym, and every man in my lineage either died of or was diagnosed with heart problems.

A heart attack at the gym sounds like an admirable death, "they died trying to better themselves" kind of thing. Bonus, I look good now.

Its bullet proof gym motivation too, the worse day I have, the harder I cardio. It's like depression aikido.

Me having a morbid thought: "I just want to be dead."

Also me, in Morpheus voice: "Show me."

Ten years now with that mindset, barely ever miss a gym day.

[–] geekworking@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Things never work out the way that you plan.

It's a fine line between a clean noble death and being the guy who strokes out on the treadmill, falls, gets his nut sack wrapped up in the belt.

[–] blandfordforever@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't be the guy stroking one out while getting their nuts tugged, got it.

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[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pretty telling that so many comments here immediately blame the proletariat. The fucking power of propaganda. Christ, we're so fucked.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (10 children)

If everyone else wasn't so lazy and evil, I could retire sooner and more comfortably.

I'm uniquely underpaid, overworked, and unlucky. No one else is like me. No one will ever sympathize with me. So its just me against the world.

The only thing I can do to change my lot in life is to throw in harder with a high profile ultra-wealthy industrial captain in the eternal war against foreigners, corporate rivals, and the unemployed.

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[–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That’s funny, thinking that people get to retire at 65. For me it’s 68.5 years, but that will probably be pushed backwards before then.

[–] DrMorose@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I am betting it will be 75 for me and I am only 43 now.

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[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

With climate change and fascism in a dead heat, I like my chances.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm on the Smith & Wesson retirement plan myself

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[–] Zanshi@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Huh, my reasoning was always I'll probably be dead before I reach 65, but I guess this also works

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I plan to die in the Climate wars, myself.

[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] grasshopper_mouse@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

My retirement plan involves laying down in a ditch off a highway in Colorado with an amazing view of the Rockies during a freezing winter night and just falling asleep. Social Security will not exist when I reach retirement age. I have a pension through work, I contribute to a Thrift Savings Plan, none of it will be enough, and I refuse to contribute more to either (as my Boomer parents both (of course) suggest), because to me I am literally throwing that money away. I will never see that money, the markets will crash, I will be left with nothing anyway, there's no point.

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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Gonna just make sure I die at 50.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My retirement plan is a cyanide pill to avoid the torture of roaming dystopian gangs of armed militias when they ransack my place because law and order has largely vanished and I'm their next stop.

Na, I'm just kidding. I enjoy the pain.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

You either die to the prion-diseased rape cannibals or you live long enough to see yourself become a prion-diseased rape cannibal.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (8 children)

In 60 years all you dumb fucks are gonna be old and broke as fuck and demanding the next generations pay for your stupid asses through higher taxes.

Save your fucking money. The world might not end.

[–] GluWu@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (10 children)

So... what's currently happening and has always happened? The current average social security payment is $1800. Which isn't even enough for rent and bills in most places. There are a lot of old people that worked blue collar or service jobs, payed taxes their whole life, saved what they were told and could. But they retired at 65 and planned on dying at 75, the average life span. Now they're 80.

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[–] current@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Retirement being supported through taxes rather than individuals choosing to save would be far better. It's wealth based so people who can afford to save for retirement are already doing it by default, and people who make an egregious amount of money are taxed so those who can't afford to save for retirement aren't left to rot.

Same concept as other social services, really. Having the means for basic survival should be guaranteed by society, especially for people who can't support themselves.

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I've seen what happens to people who outlive their money. It isn't pretty. You might think you'll just keep working, but there's a lot of things that can make it so you can't work.

I'm sure a lot of people commenting can't afford to save, but if you're someone who can afford to do so and you're just not prioritizing it, you might come to regret it.

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[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope I'm gone before the crumbling even starts.

[–] makuus@pawb.social 11 points 1 year ago

I’ve been very slowly getting more open and candid with the idea that I’m not going to be around to retirement age. The men in my family have incredibly rough odds, starting at 50, and I don’t think I’m going to be the one to beat the odds.

Healthy or not, constantly rolling this knowledge around my head—even voicing it —has helped to put a lot of things in perspective—even if it hasn’t yet instilled a YOLO mentality.

[–] Hootz@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

Did that for my student loans, unfortunately society didn't collapse... But I learned If you ignore it long enough they go away 😅

[–] Greyart14k@ani.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

65 is too optimistic of a number for zoomers like me. 50 seems more reasonable.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Blessed are those that plant trees for the shade they will never see.

This mentality is why we are in the position we are today. If we all fail to try to build a better future today the next generation will suffer more than us and it will be our fault then.

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