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[–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I feel like in 2024 jazz is full of people who are Very Concerned with playing jazz according to the rules and boundaries. The amount of condescending jazz musicians I have met almost approaches the amount of condescending classically trained musicians I have met at this point which is unfortunately saying something.

Obviously a big generalization of diverse and varied artistic movement, but I don’t think jazz even remotely plays the subversive, counter cultural role it used to, it has been far to institutionalized as a genre.

The counter cultural, rule breaking aspects of jazz have mostly moved on to other black american movements of music like hip-hop, rap, and electronic genres etc. Shout out to black american culture for being the driving force behind almost every meaningful musical movement in the US :)

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tbf there have always been jazz nerds and then the actual musicians.

[–] mPony@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

If the text on the pic was Live Jazz a Jazz Nerd would say "That apostrophe is a mistake" and everyone else would acknowledge it but not be nearly as upset about it.

[–] Audrey0nne@leminal.space 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is Jazz in the room with us?

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No. That's in Utah.

[–] s_s@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago

You're scared by a lack of boundaries.

I'm scared because Herbie Hancock still looks 20.

We are not the same.

[–] banichan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still have to play notes on instruments. Good luck breaking that boundary 😂

[–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Have you ever fucked around with a massively powerful software synthesizer like Pigments or Dune or Serum? Or used a powerful digital fx software like Sandman Pro?

When you have a complex sound generating machine, you can walk around the internals expressing yourself by changing the sound and timbre of the instrument as it plays a note rather than changing the note and the aesthetic dynamics possible far outstrip what seeing music only through the lens of notes can do.

[–] banichan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

A synthesizer is an instrument 🤣

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That sounds pretty cool I've been wanting to try and create an idea in my head of a bard playing a lute with thunder as the notes

[–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Do it, the amount of fun you can have with modern software synthesizers and fx is off the wall.

To say it is a rabbit hole with lots of different challenging learning curves is an understatement but at the same time these things are just super powerful toys and surfing through the presets and trying out random sounds alone is immediately fun, you don’t actually need to understand a damn lick of it to have a blast.

With wavetable synthesis or granular synthesis you can take audio samples of thunder and inject them into an audio engine where you can warp and play around with the sound of thunder in ways you can’t even begin to imagine!

With concatenative synthesis you can literally do what you are saying because concatenative synthesis takes one audio file (let’s say a 5 min recording of a thunderstorm), breaks it into chunks and then attempts to recreate a second audio file you give it (a recording of a lute player) by reconstructing the chunks from the first audio file into composite sounds that best approximate the second audio file. This is a much more niche thing but it is realllllllly fucking fun thing to mess around with.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Our strongest weapon against the Vulcans.

[–] Sorgan71@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wanna milk the nectar from this mfs tiddies

[–] maxwisecracks@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes. Lets all listen all notes at the same time and call it music. Then we all can be musicians.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Melodic death metal is the art of playing every notes in a row as fast as possible and it's amazing

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Listening to music = being a musician!

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. When notes don't matter and you just have to produce any clear sounds off your instrument and improvise through feeling with any skill you might poses, we are all musicians.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sure but you did say this:

Lets all listen all notes at the same time and call it music

which is what I goofed on

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who doesn't?

[–] BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

Is this a Howard Moon quote?

[–] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok, Meta, but is that the correct punctuation? It doesn't look right, but I don't know how I'd change it.

[–] joby@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's not a complete sentence after the period, so no.

[–] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right, but how would it be corrected? Breakout the semicolon?

Well I'm sure it could be corrected but since it's about jazz maybe we shouldn't venture into that

[–] TotallyNotSpez@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

And here I am trying to learn how to play the Banjo.

Jazz is stupid! Just play the right notes!