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Firefox for Android does not support Material UI, has a low minimum API level, and generally seems lacking in features. Why is that?

Edit 1: also the downloading function is super unstable, I lost several files due to firefox starting the download then stopping and removing the download for no reason.

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[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every app has a minimum API level. The older the Android version, the more expensive it becomes to maintain it. What features do you miss?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Chromium browsers are much worse in my experience. They don't even support extensions

[–] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Internet without full on uBlock Origin is crazy full of ads.

[–] leanleft@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

fyi cromite and bromite allow to disable cookies, javascript, popups, ads, and autoplay. (per site and global)
similar to noscript maybe.
i would rather have more or full control like ublock or umatrix.

[–] drawerair@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I've been using Firefox and Ublock origin on my Samsung a70 for a long time. I'm :).

[–] Fake4000@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Firefox for Android might not be that great in terms of performance, but is a viable option out of the Chrome eco system. Firefox Sync works. The only thing its lacking at the moment is universal support for all existing Firefox plugins.

[–] maiskanzler@feddit.de 22 points 1 year ago

That kind of changed recently, hasn't it? There's been an explosion of available plugins as if late.

[–] leanleft@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

if performance isnt great, then there are 1000 settings to help you fix it.

Forks like Mull and Fennec technically have access to all avaliable plugins, but it a bit annoying to set up. I don't know why they don't add an option to enable adding all plugins, with a disclaimer that some of them might not function as intended on Android.

All of the plugins I've tried in Fennec have worked just fine.

[–] MrPhibb@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

It particularly sucks for desktop use on phones that support it, no right click, no keyboard short cuts, and it clips a bit off the bottom of pages, and they've apparently said they have no plans to support desktop on Android.

[–] Quintus@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure the reason why it doesn't use Material Design is to protect it's own branding. Material Design is Google's after all.

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Isn't a low minimum API level a good thing? Doesn't that mean more people can use the app?

[–] Swarfega@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I actually prefer Chrome over Firefox. But fuck Google and fuck Chrome.

I'm happier since leaving Chrome and Google for Firefox and DuckDuckGo. I no longer have to use Incognito to do regular searches to prevent seeing that search as a recommendation in feeds and videos.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

That's really creepy, I forgot Google did that. Been with Kagi for a while.

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is "generally lacking in features" relative to desktop Firefox or other mobile browsers?

Also idk why you'd want Material UI. Not even chrome uses it AFAIK.

[–] King@lemy.lol 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What features do you want?

[–] zarenki@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not OP, but the one thing that bugs me most is that Firefox Android does not have a tablet UI. Other browsers like Chrome have a tab bar and other desktop-like UI features when run on Android tablets.

But on phone I've never run into a case of wanting a feature that it lacks.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm in the same boat as you, but it seems that Mozilla is finally going to try to improve the tablet UI this year: https://www.androidpolice.com/firefox-tablet-ui-being-developed/

Edit: I went down the rabbit hole and enabled the tab strip in Firefox nightly and I can confirm that they already implemented a huge chunk of what's needed for a proper tablet UI and IMO do it much better than Chrome.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Not OP, but Firefox Android is lacking in features compared to both. For example, when it comes to bookmarking, it is painfully behind its desktop counterpart. Not only is there no desktop style bookmark manager to be found, but bigger folder structures are hard to visualize because subfolders are barely indented when you need to look for them.

I could probably write a short essay about bookmark and tab treatment, and the pseudo-tab that shows up when you tap Home, New Tab, or the URL bar itself. Browsers shouldn't have a learning curve that requires you to acknowledge the pseudo-tab isn't really a tab.

[–] frankpsy@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

I'm just glad that it exists at all. Google has Chrome tied down on Android because they feel they can.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No horizontal tabs makes it useless for tablets and larger screens.

[–] rorschah@lemdro.id 5 points 1 year ago

The following PR actually implements a desktop like UI for firefox android.Hope it will be in atleast beta soon.

https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/firefox-android/pull/5218#issuecomment-1966233109