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[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 68 points 2 years ago (38 children)

I don't understand the memes connection between liberals and fascism.

[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Maybe like in Sweden, where the liberals went from calling themselves proud of being called the enemies of fascism, saying they will hide refugees if made illegal, to just straight up calling it "liberal politics actually", and are now collaborating with them to form a government. Crazy how that happens every time.

[–] exocrinous@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Liberals have a tendency to tolerate fascists more than is reasonable. They believe in granting fascists basic respect as serious political actors. They treat disagreements with fascists as intellectual debates with decorum and rules.

Joe Biden shouldn't have gone to the 2020 presidential debates armed with facts and arguments. He should have stepped up to the podium and said "this man is a murderer and deserves to be killed." It is the result of liberalism that this cannot be said in such a setting.

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

But libs oppose Biden as well

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yelling at other lefties for not being left enough is a long and proud tradition.

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (13 children)

The difference between liberals and the left is the stance on capitalism. Liberals believe they can make capitalism work, leftists insist we must move beyond it. The people obfuscating liberal and leftist are the people who want the discussion of moving past capitalism to stop. Don't help them.

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I disagree. There are plenty of examples of liberal anti-capitalists such as David Ellerman

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[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (11 children)
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[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As a left handed person I don't know why people hate us so much, what is wrong for using left hand as main?

[–] Buffaloaf@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Take your goofy scissors and get the fuck out!

[–] Godnroc@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Difference in thought is dangerous to the established power structures. It starts with thinking that you can use a different hand to wipe your ass and evolves into thinking maybe the rulers shouldn't be ruling.

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

...not wrong. Except remember that an idea cannot be genuinely destroyed, since it's not an actual physical thing. Even if you did somehow manage to destroy it in the present day, nothing prevents people from creatively coming up with it again.

Netanyahu wants to learn this the hard way.

Find another way that doesn't involve death, destruction and ill-fated attempts at control.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A platitude. The fascists are already trying to kill us, we need to fight back. Both sides are not the same.

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Not a platitude, a harsh and brutal reality. Though I do agree that it is time to fight fascism. Just don't think you can actually destroy it by fighting like this is all some fictional story with a happily-ever-after. Real life doesn't work that way, only fiction.

Real life needs more difficult and complicated fixes.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Netanyahu wants to learn this the hard way.

Netanyahu knows. It's how that corrupt bastard stays in power and out of prison.

[–] ULS@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

"10 degrees to the left in good times, 10 degrees to the right when it affects them personally."

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