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Two of the major chains in my area merged a while back and they were required to close down a few of their stores to prevent having a monopoly.
So of course they closed the stores that were under-performing, which just means they closed the ones in poor neighborhoods.
They still owned or kept the leases to the buildings and sub-leased them out with the stipulation that any business taking them over could not carry groceries.
Not only are the people in those areas having to drive a lot further (or spend more time on public transit), but a lot the surrounding businesses to the stores that closed down ended up going out of business themselves.
There's at least one nearly abandoned mini-small, shopping plaza in town due to this.
Wow never realized it but same. Clemens and Acme went under, then Superfresh. All those shopping centers are still empty or near barren and that was like well over a decade for those to go under
that seems like anti competitive behavior, I wonder if those kinds of stipulations could be made illegal. Also a commercial vacancy tax probably wouldn't hurt.
They are legal. This is/was Walmart's M.O. for anticompetitive behavior when one of their stores closed. Any competitors couldn't lease, other businesses failed when they moved and didn't have the traffic, and so you are left with both an unoccupied eye sore as well as a food / product desert....
Good idea on the vacancy and potentially changing the law to prevent anti-competitive stipulations like that.
If they won't let others use it they should be compelled to sell it.
As an Australian who has to deal with the duopoly of our grocery stores after we let them all merge years ago, it absolutely will drive higher prices and nobody who isn't a shareholder should want this.
They basically "collude" to fix and raise prices here and have whole teams of people who's job it is to monitor and extract as much money out of us as possible. They also force growers to accept shitty deals or they reject their produce due to "not meeting their quality standards" and there's basically nowhere else for them to sell it in the quantities they need to.
Nobody wins in grocery store mergers except the shareholders.
In Canada we have multiple chains and they collude anyway
Australia is super concentrated, the duopoly own 70% of the grocery store market as well as others like 60% of the alcohol market. The rest is made up of convenience stores (mostly one company, IGA) and Aldi, the latter having single digit percent.
You basically sell and buy groceries though these two or you don't exist. The CEO of one of them got so cocky during a recent interview he was forced to resign over it.
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Albertsons has been buying up competitors for a while.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albertsons
Kroger has a few too:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kroger#Chains
They turned Pavilions from a nice store to another dingy grocery. I can’t imagine this going through would be good for consumers. Many neighborhoods only have access to 2 stores at best, and I suspect most are already owned by the same parent. A merger would further turn this into a monopoly.
FTC is a captured agency with revolving door administration between what businesses they regulate and people responsible for regulation.
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Hell I'm in Seattle and my walkable area (about 2 mile radius for me) would be reduced to this mega corp, Amazon, and a couple Asian marts. I've got two corner stores nearby but their produce is usually not great and mostly they have snacks and microwavables. I suspect smaller towns or less bustling neighborhoods could easily be reduced to just this super chain and nowhere else
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So rare.
Bold of them to believe they'll stop price gouging regardless.
Hmmm….
Kroger: 2,750 stores in 35 states and the District of Columbia
Albertsons: 2,273 stores in 34 states
Total: 5,023 stores. Presumably some would close due to proximity after the merger.
Walmart: 5,214 stores in the 50 states, DC, and Puerto Rico
I smell a break up!!!
I'd love to see it but this isn't the best comparison. The total number of stores aren't what makes a company a monopoly, it's the ratio of one company's market share versus its competitors.
Fair point.
Luckily, digging through OP’s article, I have found the data!
Together, Kroger and Albertsons would control around 13% of the U.S. grocery market; Walmart controls 22%, according to J.P. Morgan analyst Ken Goldman.
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Shittier services and higher prices/more fees, every merger ever.
Read yesterday about Wendy's rolling out new electronic menus this year so they can enact dynamic pricing. Can't wait until Surge pricing hits another non-negotiable like food.
Burn all these oligarchs down.
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Didn't Albertson's already merge with Safeway?
They did, yes
People are talking about combining the names. If Albertson's and Safeway didn't, I suspect it will be the same with Kroger.
Best to keep the names separate to create the illusion of choice.
This has been silently happening in every industry for years.
Yep! This reminds me of the infographic where almost every major food brand in the world is covered by 10 parent brands. https://www.good.is/Business/food-brands-owners-rp
Illusion of choice
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I hope the lawsuit is successful. This would make them the only viable store in many areas.
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It's interesting living in a partof the USA where I couldn't even tell you where a Kroger or Albertsons is. Maybe they don't tend to overlap with Food Lion's?
Iirc they own many subbrands that cover most of the country. Here is a list:
Prices are already outrageous. We don't need more of that.
Hope this goes better than when they tried to stop MS from buying up Activision Blizzard.
Kroger and Albertsons are the two major chains in my city (known as Fry's and Safeway here). If they merge, their only real competition left is Walmart.
That said, I wouldn't be surprised if they haven't secretly merged decades ago already. Their products, prices, and branding are nearly identical. Even the commercials they play over the store speakers are the same.
Having a non-nationalized monopoly is stupid and bad.
But being champions of free market economics, and then being shocked pikachu when the free market does free market things is even stupider. Especially when nothing is done to reign in this free market crap.
The US wants to be socialist so bad, but can't get their populous to vote for it because of scary words they don't understand. Instead it's done as a random patchwork that of course doesn't work and corporate lobbying just makes it appear as an illusion of choice.
Next time you're out shopping in Walmart or Kroger or whatever look at the aisle you're in and the choices. Let's say cereal. 200 different choices of flavour. 50 different "brands". In reality it's all 1 company. There may be a couple outliers but it's all the same company selling the same sugary processed crap giving you the illusion of choice.
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Does anyone get hanged when it reaches half a billion?
Awesome. While we're at it let's sue Kroger/Smith's for the absolute eyesore that is the hideous playmobil-lookin 3D people in their ads. The design is so bad it's a public nuisance. Lol
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Okay we'll stop the merger. I just need to tell them tomorrow while I'm there to get some tortillas for lunch. Albertsons, ...it's my store! 🎶 🎵
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