Might even say they ran like A55
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They're almost not even low key admitting it...
It says "ASS" right on the drive! That's how you know you'll have problems.
Got a similar problem with ocz drives before they got acquired by Toshiba. Bought three, 100% failure rate just after warranty expiration
Damn, all of my ocz ssds are still working. I know they're garbage, so I'm not doubting you. I'm just amazed mine have made it this long. They're still in my PC.
I have one of the originals, but I retired that one due to how slow it's write speeds were.
But my two Vertex and one Agility are still kicking.
Where did you buy them from? There's been an uptick in counterfeit storage and flash chips getting into new products.
Both batches from Amazon (months apart). I also bought one of that brand a few years ago (2017?) that ultimately failed within 2 years as well.
I said this in another comment, but best I can tell, the actual flash chips seem to be fine and it's the support circuitry (power regulator, SATA controller, etc) that seems to be failing.
https://halestrom.net/darksleep/blog/054_nvme/
Summary: two Silicon Power P34A80's died within a few months of use, the second one was the warranty replacement of the first. In both cases sectors suddenly became permanently unreadable.
Yep, I've had two die on me, both within a year of purchase, for no real reason whatsoever. I'm never buying that brand again.
Seems like the 3v3 regulator is what goes out on these
Wow, they've really reached the bone on cost saving with this one to have a fucking voltage regulator be the straw that broke the camel's back.
What is a recommended SSD nowadays? I don't really have a criteria other than avoiding the noise - sata works well enough for me.
I've been buying Samsung (both SATA and NVMe), though I'm sure someone will tell me they went to crap too. At least the ones I have are on track to hit the 3 year mark.
For less critical things, I've used PNY pretty successfully (haven't hit 2 years yet, but haven't had any failures either). They're less expensive, and I usually stick to the 120-240 GB ones (basically they're boot drives)
Samsung did have a major problem early last year, but it seems to be limited to a run of products with a specific firmware.
I still have the very first SSD I ever bought, a 120GB Samsung 830 that is well over 10 years old. It is the OS drive in my server and thus running 24/7. No errors yet.
Lol, yep. I've got a 32 GB Kingston SATA SSD (first one I could afford back in 2014) still going strong 24/7. I think it's either in my router or my HomeAssistant box.
I have Samsung and crucial ssds across 3 systems and only 1 Samsung has failed after 3 years of almost 24hour uptime across those 3 years.
All my machines use WD nvme/sata, with a laptop running ADATA nvme. The only ssd I've had fail was at the very very bleeding edge of ssd availability ("sale" of ~$100 for 30GB) with a Kingston drive, unknown flash mfg. Oldest (other than the Kingston) is when I installed (family member's box) a Samsung sata drive (830? 840?) that's been a trooper for the last... 11 years? No issues otherwise.
Oh, the original ssd (unknown brand) that came in that laptop, which I immediately cloned to+replaced with the ADATA, I stuck in my nas last year. It lasted less than 6 months, with no prior writes and the only reads being the clone, until the nas. Also I got warnings less than 6h before total failure. It was working as a cache drive. Replaced with WD Red nvme drives (2 vs the 1) and those are working fine. Pissed me off, that laptop msrp at... $2700? I bought at $1400 + nvme and ram. For them to want such a fucking nutty upcharge and then use a no-name nvme that dies with moderate use (plex system mostly, couple users) is bullshit. Not surprising, it's came out of an Acer Predator, but fuck.
E: oh and that little pos decided to die when I was on vacation at a convention, so scrambling to get to a laptop and tell the nas to stop using the failing/failed drive, worried about the data, was a panic detour that I did not need...
Either Samsung or crucial for me. Had a SanDisk that died on me.
I've had failures with Patriot and Kingston but all 4 Samsungs I've since put in various PCs have been reliable
I've seen a lot of people recommending Teamgroup. They tend to be cheaper than Samsung but with supposedly better quality than other cheap options. I haven't looked up any studies yet though.
Oh, damn I have one of these in one of my systems. I'm going to have to find it now and replace it. :(
At least make sure you have good backups and definitely plan for it to fail (if you can't replace it immediately). These seem to be "when" they fail rather than "if". Of the 6 I had fail, only one gave any warning signs; the rest just disappeared from the bus and never came back.
This is the only brand of SSD where I've experienced a 100% failure rate (I rate my drives over 3-5 year spans). Lol, for comparison, I've got a Kingston one from 2014 and an Intel one from 2015; both are still kicking and in daily use.
Better to know and it be an inconvenience than unaware until it dies and is a (potential) nightmare
Afaik there are actually 4 flash memory manufacturers in the World, when you by an SSD the chips were manufactured by one of these companies:
- Flash Forward (Owned by or related to: Kioxia, Sandisk, WD, Dell, Seagate, Kingston)
- Micron (Crucial)
- Samsung
- SK Hynix
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_solid-state_drive_manufacturers
Best I can tell, the actual flash memory chips are fine. It's the support circuitry around them that seems to be failing.
That said, the data could probably be recovered if I was so inclined and wanted to spend time/money on it. I have backups, so I'm content never buying or looking at one of these pieces of junk ever again haha
Related, but am I correct that only 3 companies make platter drives? WD, Toshiba, and Seagate? Been idly looking for new drives (no rush/issue) for my nas and that's what I found.
Yes, that's true. Illusion of choice, anti monopoly laws are working as expected.
I have a 1tb drive from them, still going strong 6 years in.
You must be the luckiest person alive.
Can you please pick 5 numbers between 1 and 69 and then another number between 1 and 26? I'm going to buy a Powerball ticket with those numbers.
47 20
Good luck.
Watch this guy win and not even offer you a cut :P
I mean, if I DM'd you saying I won the lottery and wanted to share it with you, would you even read the whole message before reporting it as spam? 😂
Given the context of a previous conversation, I would. This is a very elaborate long con OP
Go big or go home 🤷♂️
What's wild is I have had a 1TB one of these running for like 4 or 5 years now without issues, and I've had 2 nice Samsung's (a 970 and 980) die in that time frame. I've basically come to the conclusion that modern consumer storage can't be trusted or relied on in general. Robust back-up solutions of anything I'm worried about losing, preferably to a cloud service (or 2)...
Since we are talking about cheap ssds, what do you guys think of netac?
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:
Fewer Letters | More Letters |
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NVMe | Non-Volatile Memory Express interface for mass storage |
SATA | Serial AT Attachment interface for mass storage |
SSD | Solid State Drive mass storage |
3 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 10 acronyms.
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I almost bought an SP NVMe SSD yesterday for a client who insisted on saving every penny possible but went with another cheap brand because I saw a lot of reports of failures with the NVMe ones as well. Now I'm hoping the other cheap option that was available won't suffer the same fate.
Buy cheap, buy twice.
Buy once, cry once.
Oh I am very aware of that but this guy doesn't seem to be. He came to me with his daughters school laptop because he had purchased an external harddrive so she could put The Sims 4 on it. They were having issues installing the game on it.
He bought a 40$ 2TB external harddrive that was fake and kept crashing when you tried to access it. At least I managed to get him to spend a bit more on upgrading the SSD instead of having his daughter suffer through loading games from a shitty USB HDD.
I've had good luck with the two inland nvmes I got from microcenter if you're trying to save a buck. Samsung 970s have been good too, I've got 8 of them running at work.
Oh shit, same! I had to upgrade some oscilloscopes, and thought I'd get these. Dead, instead of a year, all 5x.
I bought a ssd off of eBay and it failed within 90 days. It was very cheap.
I've had one of these running for years, honestly I didn't expect it to last this long as it looks really cheap