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[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 138 points 1 year ago (15 children)

European here.

This seems to mainly only be an issue in the US. Socialism = Communism = Enemy

If at all anything, the opposite seems to be the case here. We're looking at the US as a "this is how bad it will get if we let go" example

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

In addition: government programs that help everyone = helping black people = no.

I think this is the fundamental reason why the US never went to public/universal anything, be it healthcare, education, whatever.

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[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yeah y'all really don't want to end up like us. We're not the land of the free. The streets are most definitely not paved with gold. We're just a giant ponzi scheme.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 6 points 1 year ago

It's actually insane how many of our institutions are actually based on pyramid schemes. No wonder we all use it as the symbol for conspiracy because it is a huge portion of how anything runs in the US. Cover the costs by convincing more people to join in at a less beneficial or profitable step down the pyramid and hope someone else will be coming behind you for you to take from as well.

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[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago (15 children)

As a european it's always been fucking WERID how americans panic and reach for their guns at the mention of socialism.

[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I mean

There was this whole thing called the Soviet Union then there was like a missile crisis

And there was like a group that called themselves National Socialists and they did a genocide and tried to take over a bunch of land by force

We also had to fight a bunch of talking trees that dug tunnels because military industrial complex and heroin

It's definitely many layers of propaganda but as an American I definitely understand WHERE it comes from, I understand why most people here flinch at the word.

You also gotta understand we had multiple generations in a row huffing lead gasoline so while younger millennials aren't impacted as bad, MOST Americans are legitimately lead brained.

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It wasn't just leaded gasoline. I was busy getting hot boxed with cigarettes in my grandparent's leaded gasoline car before burning some asbestos, plastic cutlery, and batteries in the living room fireplace.

Forget no seatbelts or bicycle helmets. Our chemical exposure would probably send a younger person without a built up tolerance into instant seizure.

I also remember crimping down lead shot sinkers on my fishing line with my teeth. Good times. Good times indeed.

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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (52 children)

By "socialism", are we talking:

A. Worker-controlled economic system, or

B. What American liberals think is socialism, which is just a capitalist system with welfare.

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[–] z00s@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (23 children)

"Most powerful empire the world has ever known"

Lol Americans

The Romans conquered the known world with pointy sticks and diplomacy.

The US hasn't been on the winning side since ww2 despite having nukes and spyplanes.

Even the British Empire spanned the globe, and all they had was cannons, rum, and syphilis.

[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 37 points 1 year ago

Yeah they may not incorporate other countries like previous empires, but their sphere of influence is undeniable unfortunately.

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[–] Tja@programming.dev 25 points 1 year ago (11 children)

No. My impressions are based on having lived it before the iron curtain fell.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Unless you're over a 100 years old you lived in a totalitarian system masquerading as Communism.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

But prepare for a 25 year old who lives in his mom's garage in rural Indiana to try to debate you on the subject anyway.

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[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol at the person who said Lemmy doesn't have many comments.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Oh time for my link

Frame Canada

Wendell Potter spent decades scaring Americans. About Canada. He worked for the health insurance industry, and he knew that if Americans understood Canadian-style health care, they might.... like it. So he helped deploy an industry playbook for protecting the health insurance agency.

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/19/925354134/frame-canada

[–] FrostKing@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I'd like to point out that the majority of people on Lemmy 100% think about this. Hence how many up votes it has :p

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Any criticism of capitalism is the same as historical communism and therefore always wrong. Accept your fate, citizen.

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[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This post is WAY more insightful than 99% of people realize. I would argue that the only people that fully understand are part of the corporate engine that drives it.

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago
[–] Flumpkin@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 year ago

Comrade pinko barbie!

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I like this new meme format

[–] slimarev92@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I don't think about this at all. My parents are from the former Soviet Union and I actually heard from them how life there was (mostly not great).

Also I think that fearing socialism is a very American thing.

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[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ironically the same in left leaning countries just corps banging the workers and blaming someone else using insane propaganda every single fucking where

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