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[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 154 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Kind of cute but also kind of sad. Love is sometimes also a leap of faith and trust. It seems like they never really trusted each other, or themselves, to still love each other.

Personally I think marriage is not about force, but about trust. It's a confession of trust in your partner.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a little hard to tell if the idea is that they at some point realize this will be a running joke between them but both agree that they no longer really believe it, or if each time they say it, it's because they truly don't want to commit to advancing the relationship.

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[–] Signtist@lemm.ee 43 points 1 year ago

Yeah, we can't hear the tone in their voices, but these little jabs would make me concerned if they weren't clearly joking. I'd feel very insecure if my wife were constantly reminding me that she's ready to bolt at a moment's notice if things get the slightest bit tough. We'd never have made it this far if we weren't willing to work things out when the future looks bleak.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Why would one want to do this leap of faith if one can be happy without it? I'd rather have the relationship be based on regularly renewed interest than a leap. I don't want someone to stay with me because of a past social success certificate. People change, you can't predict if you'll have the same feelings in 3 years. If it is still there great, if it's not, I'd rather not make things administratively complicated on top of the rest.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I would say that even the easiest relationships are work and it's not healthy to always have your eye on the door but what do I know?

[–] nBodyProblem@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It’s absolutely guaranteed you won’t have the same feelings. People change and the new relationship dopamine wears off after a few years.

However, building a life together is a special thing in its own right and that takes commitment to stay together and work on the relationship when times get tough.

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I think that OP is talking about the commitment of marriage more-so than the actual document making it official with the government. I like the comic as a sweet notion of finding love when you weren't looking for it. But a relationship without commitment and without the security that your partner would allow you to grow and change as a person and still stay committed would be hard to stay in realistically.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 1 points 1 year ago

That's one way to look at love, but I don't look at it like that.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sees other people being happy and wholesome

Calls them sad because they don't share the same worldview as him.

Wut?

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just giving my perspective m8. You're free to find it only cute and wholesome - your opinion is as valid as mine.

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[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not sure I'd agree that a relationship with so much uncertaintly is that wholesome. I know I'd lose sleep if my partner kept telling me this is just a for now thing but still expected commitment.

[–] Chefdano3@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago

You've missed the point. There's no expected commitment, they are both of the same mind. They both feel like it would be ok if it doesn't last. It's because they share the same feelings that they continue to work well together, and the relationship lasts.

This is basically how me and my girlfriend's relationship started off. No pressure, if it's not working we'll call it off and go back to being just friends.

We've been together for 15 some odd years, and we have 2 kids.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You really think this is more stressful than “we have to be together forever, unconditionally”. Forever is a long time. I'd take this over unhappy marriages that fight, bicker and argue all day everyday, hate each other's guts and sleep on separate rooms out of spite for 15 out of the past 20 years. But are still together because of social norms and pressures.

This on the other hand is liberating and loving company. Nothing makes me feel more secure and confident than someone who can use that second to last line confidently “I would be fine on my own, but I'm better with you” it tells you clearly that this person is with you because they want to. Everything else in romantic manipulative BS.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I want to be with you forever" makes me feel a lot more secure, comfortable and hopeful than "when this isn't fun anymore I'm off".

Everyone knows that "be with you forever" is a feeling, not a fact but it gives me a good idea of where my partner is in the relationship. My partner saying "once it isnt fun I'm out" makes me feel like I'm just a hobby, not a partner.

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[–] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unhealthy fear of committment

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their relationship seems healthy enough, doesn't it? They enjoy each others company, and they treat each other well. So is this unhealthy fear of commitment? Or is it explicit acceptance of uncertainty?

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm mostly imagining what my reaction would be if one of my friends described a relationship by saying that if it isn't fun anymore they're done, but they're also thinking of moving in together. Major red flags.

Uncertainty is a huge part of life, but a large part of a relationship is being someone else's certainty. No matter what happens, you're there for them, through everything.

The relationship in the comic is cute because they made it, but I wouldn't hold it up as exemplary or healthy. Most people who treat relationships this way don't have relationships that last. They end up out their security deposit for breaking a lease on an apartment after a surprisingly nasty breakup.

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

I’m mostly imagining what my reaction would be if one of my friends described a relationship by saying that if it isn’t fun anymore they’re done, but they’re also thinking of moving in together. Major red flags.

I think that mischaracterises what is going on here. The characters in the comic aren't describing a relationship to a third party. They are talking openly and honestly about their feelings to each other.

You're talking about relationships not lasting, and being unhealthy, etc. - but there are multiple people in this thread who have publicly said that this comic reflects their own long-term ongoing relationship. I think it's important to understand that different people communicate their feelings differently. To you maybe telling to your partner that you can't promise to love them forever a red flag; - whereas to me, telling someone that you will love them forever unconditionally is a red-flag, because life isn't really like that. I don't want platitudes or empty promises.

I agree that it's bit sketchy to say to your partner "if it isn't fun, them I'm off"; ('fun', I think, is a bad word to use.) But on the other hand, the two characters in the comic agreed at the start that they weren't even looking for a long term relationship. So they are on common ground. They aren't just pulling out a bombshell from nowhere; but rather they are acknowledging their current and changing feelings. So in their relationship it can make sense to say something like that.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

They are acknowledging the inherent mortality of relationships, and they seem to be doing fine together.

There is always the possibility of shooting yourself in the foot and being too scared of the relationship ending and screwing it up that way, but there's also the possibility of it ending because you ignored the risks and warning signs.

It's about striking a balance, and that balance is gonna be different for each relationship.

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This comic makes me miserable. I'm going to die alone.

[–] MycelialMass@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If its any consolation everyone dies alone

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nonsense. Plenty of people die surrounded by their creditors.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

The fact that “creditors” is on a second line gave your joke even better timing. Love it.

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 23 points 1 year ago

This is cute. Reminds me of my wife and I. We weren't even close to this in denial, though. 😏

[–] PatMustard@feddit.uk 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lot of psychoanalysts in the comments who can't seem to identify that this is just a joke, the last panel being the punchline

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What's the punchline? The guy was zoned out on the computer the last 25 years and wasn't aware of any relationship whatsoever? I still kinda don't get it.

[–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't get it either. Is this supposed to be cute? She seems like the worst and him, the enabler.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The way I interpreted it, they’re both happy in the relationship, but both are telling eachother (but really themselves) that they aren’t going to commit, because they’re both afraid of becoming invested and subsequently hurt when it doesn’t pan out (likely due to bad past experiences). But they both act like this because they’re afraid of the other abandoning them. Eventually they’re together long enough that it has since become clear that neither of them are leaving and they’re both happy, so the last panel is them finally addressing that fact.

It’s a joke because 25 years is an absurd amount of time to come to that realization. In reality this couple would have figured this out after a few years. It’s exaggeration.

It’s “cute” because they’re both good, loyal people who love each other, but they were both on the defensive for a long time, which is an immature “toxic” behavior, but because they were both on the exact same page, they have grown out of that toxic behavior together.

The guy does kinda comes across like maybe he’s not sharing the same behavior because he’s a bit more nonchalant about it, but I think that’s the general idea.

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[–] PatMustard@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

Calm down Freud, it's just a gentle comic!

[–] PatMustard@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago

They've spent 25 years not acknowledging the relationship so it's a surprise to one when the other does. At least that's how I'm interpreting it.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

It's observational humor about how some people are so afraid of committed relationships that they have to slowly work they way into it. Which is funny to watch from the outside, since it's clear to everyone else what is going on. Obviously if you haven't made such experience yourself or observed situations like that, that joke wont work for you.

[–] THE_MASTERMIND@feddit.ch 11 points 1 year ago

So what's her name Pissy ?

[–] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

There is for sure a YouTube video or there where a therapist reacts to memes and comics and diagnoses them with unsecure attachment styles

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] moistclump@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Might wanna go clean yourself up then

Maybe in 25 years

[–] datendefekt@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I feel called out on this one :D For years we were like "Marry and have kids? No way, we're way too irresponsible ourselves!" After 14 years we thought we might as well marry. And now it's been (counts on fingers) 27 years, and we have three wonderful kids and couldn't imagine any other life!

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