Google Will Pay Reddit $60M a Year to Use Our Content for AI
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this post was submitted on 22 Feb 2024
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Reddit getting paid to do fuck-all while their users generate all their content.
Actually, it's worse than that because Reddit actively makes the site shittier every month.
Don’t forget at least half the stuff on Reddit these days is posted by AI bots. Enshitification all the way down.
Hasn't that always been the way?
What's it called when you sell something you don't own?
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theft?
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piracy?
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... scalping?
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selling on margin?
You wouldn't download petabytes of information that was generated by the public for free and try to monetize it
DOWNLOADING IS PIRACY
How the turn tables
Innovative business decision?
"He who sells what isn't his'n, must buy it back or go to pris'n."
Literal steal considering how much content is produced and published there. However, bots training bots will be funny to watch and might lead to some interesting AI detection tech
So now it will just respond "and my axe" to every question?
Sigh... unzips pants
Which is cheaper — paying a Reddit $60m per year, or just buying the company outright after the stock tanks?
As much as I wish to see the stocks plunge, it probably won't.
Since half or more of reddit is now bots and shills, I don't imagine the training data is going to be great. That's fine, Gemini already sucks, so it'll be hard to make it worse.
The data being generated now sure, but there's still the years of actually useful data there.
Then add on the remaining half of comments that are from sensible users and it's a decent, and still fairly unique, dataset.
There are many, many, many things posted as fact over the years on reddit that are not only untrue, but dangerous or even deadly in the case of some of the most idiotic advice given. I wish good luck telling them all apart to the poor 3rd world contractors the big commercial AI companies ~~exploit~~use to "train" their stochastic parrots.
That was one of my favorite shitposting formats. I would type a whole paragraph with technical details and real knowledge. Only the people who actually knew what I was talking about would realize its a shitpost.
Yep, and a lot of reddit is thinly veiled shitposts, bots, and uncredited karma whoring reposts of stolen content (the commercial AI companies should feel right at home here). Some of them are to anger the self righteous redditors who come to PC police anyone who dares speak against the far left zeitgeist. But most importantly, so, so many of them are just for the lols.
The scariest part is that those drawn out, apparently accurate but actual nonsense posts/comments, is how many of them end up near the top, with massive numbers of votes from those who think "well that sounds reasonable," but know nothing of the subject itself.
Semi-related: I really loved the shitposts where the guy would tell an elaborate story, and end it with his dad beating the shit out of him with jumper cables. Now that's quality reddit content.
LOL. Why on earth would you pay millions to train AI on a large number of sarcastic, nasty, and opinionated comments typed without much thought?
AI trained on bots and trolls is going to be sooooo helpful
I'd train an LLM on my older political comments and just let it out ragin', knowing finally that I don't have to type those myself. It'd feel so much better to be me in that scenario.
Imagine paying $60M for trash
I had not nuked my account history, because while reddit went to shit for me, I still used it as an info source via search. And so I wanted to leave my posts/comments in case they add value to someone else, who still uses the platform. But with this, if I am not lazy, I just might. I don’t even care about the AI training bit, rather that it is Google AI.
You can't nuke it for real anyway
I know people said reddit restored their mass overwtitten comments, but iirc this was a brief scare due to some problem with the tool used or servers or something. I think reddit even officially commented that they are not doing this.
Why would they delete for real something they store? Especially if the user agreement most likely doesn't require them to do that.
Many people dont actually delete, but edit the content. Also, even if the data stays and gets used for training, so be it, not more you can do about it, at least I tried. But mass purging your account history still makes the site worse for searched topics and is the last bastion of resistance after shuffling off that cesspool.
Many people dont actually delete, but edit the content.
Same thing as with deletion.
OpenAI CEO Sam Altman controls 8.7 percent of Reddit, I wonder if he values the $$$s of the Google deal or is pissed as a Google rival: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/reddit-files-ipo-sam-altman-newhouse-family-investors-1235833080/
Ugh.
Gonna be an AI full of memes and shill for industry.
AI loophole? I mean they will feed the AI with AI content? LMAO.
That’s it? JFC
Can't blame reddit. I'd take that deal aswell.
Well, there are about 60 million users, easy math, no?