Please let's all remember that these are child actors, and they are no responsible for the poor writing or direction in the show. We can be sure they have worked extremely hard and poured their lives into this show, and the ones we should be disappointed with are the showrunners.
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If the acting is bad, we can be mad at the casting director as well. It doesn't really matter if they're child actors, that doesn't make them immune from being called bad actors. They don't deserve to get dunked on or solely blamed for the show, but let's not pretend they don't play a part in its quality. If they were amazing actors, I'd assume you'd have no issue giving them praise? Why is the opposite not true?
If they were amazing actors, I'd assume you'd have no issue giving them praise? Why is the opposite not true?
Because they're children dude. Praise does not have harmful psychological consequences. There is no downside to giving a child credit for doing something well. There is tremendous harm in attacking a child over something they did objectively correctly, but inevitably not to the impossible standards of armchair critics whose entire presence on the Internet is built on giving exaggerated and heartless criticism.
like the kid that played Anakin in Star Wars. he caught so much shit over it, that he gave up acting all together.
In 2012, Lloyd explained that his decision to retire from acting in 2001 was due to bullying at school and harassment by the press, both in response to his role in The Phantom Menace.
Damn that's sad. Haven't seen the phantom menace in a while but I thought he was pretty good.
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The problem is people tend to go way the hell overboard when it comes to criticism and some child actors can't handle it. Look at what happened with Jake Lloyd as an example. Best to just leave the children out of the criticism and make it about the adults who made the decisions.
People tent to go way the hell overboard on a lot of things. Best to focus on constructive criticism, while keeping in mind the actors are children, rather than to blindly self-censor based on the subject.
Complete false equivalency. Do you think positive and negative are the same thing?
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I've only watched the first 2 episodes, and yeah some of the performances come off quite bad, but I think the editing is at least partially to blame. They hold on characters too long and at odd moments completely destroying any sense of natural tempo in conversations.
yeah there was at least one scene where I was like "what the hell, the actors are awkwardly looking at something that isn't there, you clearly could have cut away from that take!"
Btw we have some discussions for the first few episodes on !avatar@lemmy.world if you want to weigh in there
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Even with each of its eight episodes clocking in at about an hour each, it would have been difficult for Netflix’s Avatar to hit all of the same beats as the lengthier cartoon.
Ah well theres your problem. I was actually rooting for this to be good but surprise surprise, Netflix is still shit.
I mean, to be fair, 8 episodes at 1 hour each is more or less the same runtime that 20 episodes of ~20 min each. The problem is not the amount of episodes, it's just bad direction.
Same runtime maybe, but not the same pace. Would you have them just switch from one story to another a third of the way through the episode?
Lots of animated shows do that, though they only usually have two stories due to shorter runtimes
That's more because they have an allotted time slot on their TV network. Like Nickelodeon gave Spongebob 22 minutes per episode but they only wanted to write 10 minute episodes, so they did 2 per episode. That's not really relevant on a streaming service where they have total control over the episode pacing. They can even do weird stuff like having different episodes in a series run for different durations.
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Better direction would probably help but fitting multiple episodes from the original into a few here seems like its asking for issues. But as you said, bad direction is more the issue. Im sure someone will make a better ATLA live action at some point.
They got my hopes up with One Piece.
That's a shame.
The One Piece live action blew me away. I had the lowest expectations too, so it was quite a surprise.
Really? I thought it was adequate at best.
Had you seen it before? The live action was my first real introduction and I really enjoyed it.
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Just finished watching Episode 1. Don't care what the reviews say. It's a great show. Decent acting and pretty good SFX. Looking forward to Ep. 2.
Watching the latest trailer it’s very easy to see the poor acting. It’s pretty bad when you catch a 3 second glimpse of a scene and can see in those few seconds just how poorly the acting and dialogue is, ooof.
Me and my family like it. They grew up with the original and didn't know a live action was in the works until I started it up yesterday.
We also liked Netflix's Cowboy Bebop but all the neckbeards managed to cancel it fast.
Yeah I liked bebop, and one piece, and this too. The only note I would have on this is regarding iroh. It seems like the actor is playing him 100% sober, so we lose a bit of the iroh charm I think.
I really really like Paul Sun-Hyung Lee. He was amazing in Kims convenience. In my opinion he does a pretty good Iroh. Overall the cast is very good Zuko, Sokka are pretty spot on. I'm not a die hard fan of avatar. But I liked the cartoon and enjoy the show. I don't get the hate. I mean after watching uncharted...
Oh yeah, he was great as Iroh, that was only the littlest of gripes. And maybe 2 days after I posted that I read that the director told him to not match the voice
Is it at least better than the first one?
Much better. This one does not make me want to go to Lake Laogai and get brainwashed.
There is no Avatar movie in Ba Sing Se
Sadly bad live action will devalue rare good live action shows like One Piece, because people will skip it as being another bad show, while it isn't.
M Night Shamalan get bored or something? Wasn't his movie a big enough kick in the dick?
There is no movie in ba sing se
Is there any anime-remake that's not a disapointment?
Speed Racer and Alita: Battle Angel were good.
Why did they make it so dark and gritty? That's my main complaint having seen the first episode.
Did they? I think they made the scenes with the actual, you know, war, more dark and gritty. But there are plenty light hearted scenes with Aang just being a kid?
Btw we have some discussions for the first few episodes on !avatar@lemmy.world if you want to weigh in there
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