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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's one aspect in which The Orville was certainly more realistic than Star Trek. Their security officer was using their holodeck to fulfill his smutty gay sex fantasies.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Haven't seen Lower Decks yet, I'm guessing?

The pilot episode has Mariner load an all nude male Olympic gymnastic facility lol

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She's also punished, at one point, by having to clean the holodeck "bio filters."

[–] Daze@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

🎶 Boogers and Cum! 🎶

[–] teft@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Also VOY has Tuvok using the holodeck for ponfarr.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True but at least there was a medical reasoning behind that one and not just "abs.... yummy...."

[–] teft@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago
[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also in DS9 IIRC it's implied Quark's holosuites are full of smut

[–] teft@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago
[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not Tuvok, a Vulcan officer from Engineering. And it didn't exactly solve his problem.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

100% Tuvok. He complains to Tom Paris about his hologram wife T'Pel's ears being too short.

You can see her referenced here.

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Huh. I might have skipped that episode.

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

"and holodeck waste removal"

"Urgh is it really mostly #$&!?"

"Oh yeah, it's all #$&!..."

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

This is a recurring theme in DS9. Quark is always offering new programs like "pleasure mazes" with a "surprise" at the center. Nog even has his own program with a "pleasure goddess".

[–] banichan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Red Dwarf, too 😉

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Dude. Rap doesn't exist in the 24th century. Only classical music.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How could I not remember?!

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

And hard rock or metal thanks to Mariner and Tendi

[–] teft@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Klingon Acid Punk also exists...

[–] teft@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I would make celebrity deathmatches in claymation.

Kahless vs Plato should be interesting.

Or Shran vs Napoleon

Her Most Imperial Majesty, Mother of the Fatherland, Overlord of Vulcan, Dominus of Qo'noS, Regina Andor, Philippa Georgiou Augustus Iaponius Centarius vs Elizabeth II by the Grace of God, of Great Britain, Ireland and the British Dominions beyond the Seas, Queen, Defender of the Faith

You know, all the good matches you can think of.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Georgiou vs Liz 2?

Oh my god.

I never knew I needed anything more.

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I’d recreate Napoleon and the Battle of rabbits just for fun

[–] aarRJaay@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Anyone else remember the YouTube series - "Epic Rap Battles From History?" - We need an AI to do the Star Trek version.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They shall never be forgotten. The Hitler vs. Vader battles are great, as is Hawkings vs. Einstein. The latter delivered one of the sickest rap battle lines of all time:

There are ten million, million, million, million, million, million, million, million, million particles in the universe that we can observe.

Your mama took the ugly ones and put them into one nerd!

[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Jefferson vs. Douglass was good enough that I started it over and watched it again. Same with Ivan the Terrible vs. Alexander the Great.

[–] AdmiralRob@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're still around. They did a really good Karl Marx vs Henry Ford rap a couple of months ago.

[–] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, their production rate slowed down a lot because of a good thing - they managed to get out from under Disney.

[–] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would any sane person who served on an enterprise want more excitement in their lives?

I'd choose simple shit too missy the time. That and porn. They got to have some interesting rules on that.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Surely the holodeck can clean up without a trace? Or for "rules", are you thinking more about the kinds of programs that are ok?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why wouldn’t just about anything be ok? Using real character of someone on ship would be some sort of violation, but after that, even knowing someone’s holodeck preferences could easily be a breach of privacy

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago

Hate to go there but I can't think of other examples. Cartoon sexual images of children are illegal in many countries. So you can imagine there might be limits despite it not being real.

[–] knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Privacy doesn't excist on a starfleet ship. They'll search your private log and the doc will tell them anything about your medical history if your 5 minutes late to the pickup after the latest mission

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Doing a random battle turns the characters into your puppets. I suppose there’s novelty but that’s boring.

Playing cards facilitates conversation, where the character’s supposed personality shines through, and strategy, where you can see how such a character might play. Much more interesting.

Star Trek characters, as you move to the later series are much more cerebral, fascinated by mental gymnastics more than physical

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You could pull off a shitty version of now it using the various LLM AIs and Sora.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

The final frontier.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Sounds like a plot for lower decks, but boiimler pisses off Surak and Kahless walks out of holodeck like EMH does.

[–] Pirky@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This is the true purpose of AI.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Doc tried to do more on Voyager, and accidentally turned himself into a psychopath lol

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He was messing with his own core programming though, adding subroutines from holodeck characters to his own, rather than really doing cool things with the holodeck itself.

The holonovel episode of voyager would be a better example, imho, of using the holodeck for something interesting. It wasn’t even really intentional, but then it was implied that became a big intentional thing after.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

I love that they had multiple members of the crew get into making holonovels, and they had different styles and tastes. One thing I wish Star Trek did more was look at what art would be like in the Federation. We only ever see Vulcan stuff really. I imagine it's hard to do art plotlines on a science show though