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here are some hyper-polluting individuals:

  • the Rolling Stones’ Boeing 767 (5,046 tonnes of CO2)
  • Lawrence Stroll (1,512 flights)
  • Thirty-nine jets linked to 30 Russian oligarchs – (30,701 tonnes of CO2)

relevant quote:

But I will say this, a movement can't get along without a devil, and across the whole political spectrum there is a misogynistic tendency to choose a female devil, whether it's Anita Bryant, Hillary Clinton, Marie Antoinette, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, or J.K. Rowling [or Taylor Swift]. And there's always gonna be people who seize on any opportunity to be misogynistic. So I would advise trans people and our allies [or environmentalists] to keep in mind, that J.K. Rowling [Taylor Swift] is not the final boss of transphobia [anti-environmentalism]. She's not our devil. The devil is the Republican Party, the Conservative Party.

Natalie Wynn (emphasis and bracket text mine)

edit: if you can’t respond to this without using the c*nt expletive it is not helping your case lmao. mods are we okay with this? in any case, please don’t feed the trolls.

edit 2/FAQ: “but why did she threaten legal action against that college kid though?” still shitty, but refer to this comment for a good explanation of the context behind that decision.

She only threatened legal action since those memes started before when her flight movements got the attention of the right in an attempt to make her less credible of a voice speaking out against trump. And knowing how batshit insane trump cultists can be and how she’s basically the single most hated person of his base I’m not surprised that she feared for her security. Those records were public for years but the legal action only happened after someone created that meme and even fox news suddenly cared about plane emissions…

and another good comment

[…] For Swift, this is legitimate fear. I don't know if you've ever experienced actual fear for your life, but it's crippling, and it effects your psyche. To experience that on a daily basis because of an app? You bet your goddamn ass I'm going to talk to my lawyers about what my options are.

sources/timeline for the above:

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[–] Pohl@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I’m not sure I fully understand the criticism to be perfectly honest. Is it actually possible to have a mega pop star of that type without them having a more intensive carbon footprint? Like she can’t really fly commercially for a lot of reasons. Tour schedules are one thing but can you imagine the scene it would make?

Fame is really just letting one person, who we consider special for some reason, use the resources of many. They get to live an extravagant lifestyle and we get the cultural benefit their work.

Bottom line: private jet travel seems to me like a requirement of her job. I’m not about to sit here and shame everyone for the carbon output that their job requires of them. She is not some capital class, passive income, leech. The lady works.

FWIW, I don’t really think I could name or identify one of her songs. Everything I know about her is what bleeds through into my media sphere. She could be a real shitheal for all I know.

[–] ninpnin@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (8 children)

For the short trips, there's literally no reason not to have a car and a chauffeaur.

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[–] janabuggs@beehaw.org 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Spujb is good people. I appreciate all the content you post.

So in all honesty, I have been adamantly anti Taylor Swift since the moment I learned there was a new pop star, but this is only because I hate all pop stars and anything corporate. I appreciate the reminder to check yourself on misogyny though. That really does slip into our subconscious so easily.

You know what hate brigade I am praying for? Dave fucking Grohl. I cannot think of a more neutral ass corporate shill.

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[–] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like this format for public address

Your points have been heard and my opinion has been swayed

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[–] Napain@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

yeah, they only meme about her because she is a threat to the maga crowd

[–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

We already did Elon Musk, now we're on Taylor Swift, the next one? Who knows

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Let’s not forget that at least 50 of Lawrence’s flights are F1 races scattered around the globe in a horrible order for environmental concerns and are increasingly hosted in oil barren countries because F1 loves blood/oil money more than anything

[–] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Is it really that bad with the Memes? It's not like people will see a Plane Meme and go "Time to vote for fascists!".

There are so many of them now because they are new and easy to make, I guess. Sure it's never nice If someone you like I getting memed about for a bad thing he/she did. But just wait some Time and they will turn down and then stop.

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[–] boborhrongar@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

"yeah you're right but can you be right more quietly, there's other things to be right about"

Really bizarre honestly. This is just how meme culture is, kinda. It's whatever's culturally relevant, and Taylor Swift is culturally relevant.

[–] arymandias@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Taylor airplane meme has basically been played out and is no longer funny.

But for me the reason I found those memes funny is the same why I find it more interesting to take the piss out of Bill Gates rather than Musk. Everyone already knows Musk is a complete nut job. But there seem to be an alarming amount of people that think Gates is genuinely a good person because of his stupid charity.

From what I see Taylor Swift is just a business woman doing business, and she is very good at that. So most decisions she makes are because she assesses that they are good for her brand, and this includes political decisions/ standpoints. The airplane angle is one of the few things she can not control in this regard, and that is why I find/found it funny to stress that point.

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[–] 1stTime4MeInMCU@mander.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for saying this. I have nothing else to say but an upvote seemed insufficient!

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[–] onewaymars@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Make memes about premier league (or any other sportsperson) footballers and see them cut back on their jet planes usage... NOT!

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[–] clemdemort@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah I kinda agree, she's not the only one in the wrong (Elon does far worse), private jets should be banned.

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