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I want to share a picture or GIF with my friend on Telegram, but I don't want to do it directly. What can I use?

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[–] supernicepojo@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago

Take a picture with a polaroid and post it to an image board you both share in the same house.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Define "safely". That means different things to different people.

Telegram has their secure chat, which is fully E2E.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago

Only on mobile, and hidden opt-in

Better drop that BS platform

[–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

It does, but it's in a very malicious fashion. You need to activate something called "Secret Chat" for a given chat conversation. Only then is it E2EE. Otherwise, it's unencrypted like discord n stuff.

[–] someoneFromInternet@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't trust telegram because they have closed servers.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

And you still haven't answered the question.

Define safely. We really can't help until we known what you're trying to do

[–] someoneFromInternet@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just want the telegram to not have access to the photo. Otherwise, I would use other methods to transmit it.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Theoretically, they don’t have access to the photos even though they’re running the server between. That’s what end to end encryption means, it’s encrypted on your end and decrypted on the recipients end.

Unless the middle man in question retains both your and the recipients encryption keys, they can’t read the messages. This requires trusting the vendor in question.

However the only alternative to trusting a vendor is not only purchasing your own equipment, but also deploying it on your property, and building and maintaining your own isolated physical connections between those locations. This is what nation states and militaries do, the US military has an entirely physically separate and independent “internet”.

There’s a concept in information security not to spend more protecting information than that information is worth. Your gifs are probably not worth the effort of building your own infrastructure, unless you’re sending some highly sketchy content.

[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm going to come off as retarded but I have to ask: when did Signal get this bad rep? I remember not too long ago that it and Telegram were praised for their privacy practices. What happened for that to change?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago

Signal requires a phone number. I'm not sure about telegram

[–] Fake4000@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Use Signal and if you both are happy with it, dump that garbage app 😂

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago

Signal is better than telegram but just a little bit. Honestly people should be using Signal if anything as it is better than many other popular platforms like WhatsApp and regular SMS.

[–] someoneFromInternet@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Signal is centralized. I don't like it.

[–] minb@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

Isn't Telegram also centralized?

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago

Then use matrix

[–] ULS@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago

Not on the Internet. Convert the gif to dvd. Then burn the dvd. Then give to your friend and burn the dvd again.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago

IP over Avian Carrier

[–] wall_inhabiter@lemdro.id 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Isn't matrix supposed to be end to end encrypted and all that? Your old posts won't even be visible to someone who takes your account IIRC.

[–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yea, but it's severely under polished

[–] wall_inhabiter@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One lady I know called it "haunted as fuck"

[–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Lollll now that's one way to put it!

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago

Matrix is only end to end encrypted if you turn on end to end encryption. I've personally had nothing but issues with its encryption.

[–] Kissaki@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So you want to encrypt it?

[–] someoneFromInternet@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Kissaki@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can 7-zip it with a password. That's pretty simple to do and use - you only need an archiving program that supports it and can send that file and share the password.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's not secure at all. For instance Microsoft will brute force the password for all of your zips to check for malware. It takes all of a few minutes to brute force zip encryption

[–] Kissaki@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Note that I said 7-zip, not zip. Are you making that claim for 7-zip?


Do you have a source for the brute forcing? Because I'm interested. If it's actually being done I doubt it'd go beyond predefined common password lists or exploiting non-secure passwording.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 2 years ago

Use a messenger that only sends messages encrypted e2e, such as Wire

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

You could share a link to the image if you hosted a drive or photo sharing service yourself. Otherwise, I guess there's Signal or telegram secret chats.

[–] xiao@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago

Do not use Telegram, use Simplex instead✌