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This only makes sense when I realize that to conservatives, it's an identity. They think it's an identity that Taylor Swift should have because she's (presumably) white, popular, rich, good looking, Midwestern, Christian, etc.

To them politics is not about ideas, or policies, or problem solving, or good governance. It's all about identity.

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[–] Okokimup@lemmy.world 122 points 2 years ago

The real identity politics were the Conservatives we met along the way.

[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 95 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I've heard this same thing said to me by Hitler humpers trying to recruit me based on what I look like, just because we're blonde haired and blue eyed with fair skin does not make us want to be a part of their hateful bullshit.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Anti racists come in all shapes, sizes, and colors. That’s kinda the fucking point actually.

[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Abso-fucking-lutely.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"But you would be part of the in-group! So why don't you help us make the out-groups life miserable?!"

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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Damn right.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 48 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well yeah, to them it’s a tribe instead of a moral failing

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Right, and so many don't seem to understand the difference between principles and affiliation. It's why when they respond to allegations about Trump being associated with Epstein by saying Bill Clinton was too, they're dumbfounded when liberals say, okay, he should be investigated too.

Generally, liberals are more likely to relate to things based on principles (e.g., people shouldn't have sex with children, so we should investigate any credible allegations regardless of who they're about). Conservatives are more likely to relate to things based on affiliation (e.g., I reject the allegations about that guy having sex with children because he's on my team, but the guy on your team should be investigated). That's why Al Franken isn't in office anymore, even though he was more guilty of an appearance of wrongdoing more than actual wrongdoing.

[–] Treczoks@lemm.ee 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't know much about Taylor Swift, but I assume she is simply too smart to be conservative.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

American “conservatives” are actually radicals by this point.

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[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It does seem true that many hyper wealthy people trend fiscally conservative, surprise surprise, to guard their own wealth.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Well-off entertainers seem to swing a little more left. Not sure what the ratio is compared to other wealthy people, there absolutely are plenty of conservative entertainers. I think quite a few of them spent time being poor while trying to win the fame lottery, and of course SAG and other unions are big in the entertainment world.

Anyway, not a huge surprise Swift is left leaning. The ones that are a bigger shocker are people like Garth Brooks or especially some of Dale Earnhardt’s progressive views.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Entertainment requires a lot of traveling and contact with lots of different people. That lends itself to leftwing viewpoints and thinking.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

This is true to an extent I think, however it’s different traveling and wanting to experience another culture vs business. If the people you surround yourself with are there to support you and reflect your viewpoint back at you (Ted Nugent being an extreme example) it’s more of an echo chamber than an education.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

LOL the idea that you should automatically be conservative because of wealth. They assume that everyone is just as selfish and unempathetic as they are.

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

That's putting it mildly.

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

It's all they have, honestly. Poor pathetic things.

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I know I mentioned this a few days ago but some anonymous person on reddit said something like this a few years ago:

They [implying white supremacists] are just mad she doesn’t want to be their blue eyed goddess spokesperson

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago

Honestly, I understand what he means. She's from a stupid rich family and grew up surrounded by country music influences. Statistically speaking, she probably would be a conservative.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 5 points 2 years ago

The higher the population moves up Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, the fewer conservatives in the population.

[–] Flumpkin@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago

The problem is that FOX isn't conservative, it's reactionary. Conservative fundamentally means that you stick to what you know works, so they should all be social democrats. Because that is what worked the last 70 years. Not neoliberalism or magnifying fringe social issues

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