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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All company A has to do is ally itself with other companies that were on the bad end of judicial outcomes and claim the companies on the good end were cheating or colluding with each other, soon you'll have opposing alliances that don't recognize the judicial proceedings of the other alliances

Afterwards a sorting phenomenon will take place, where those "thousands of other security companies" have to pick between these opposing alliances otherwise they'll be blacklisted from all of them and locked out of judicial arbitration (or worse, have to pay a premium for arbitration)

Eventually the jurisdictions of these mutually exclusive judicial alliances will overlap in which case violence and warfare becomes inevitable

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

jesse-wtf

Why are you even accepting the premise?!

In the real world Company A is some ex boot or cop with a protection racket, and Company B is some christofascist militia that's building a doomsday colony. Whichever one he's paying is definitely not seeing it as a transaction between peers and neither is going to war over one of their serfs unless they already wanted to go to war. Cause they're warlords. They're warlords.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Exploding the premise is like smashing a walnut with a sledgehammer

I like beating the shit out of libertarians in their own headspace, it's one thing to refute an ideology, it's another to run circles around dipshits using their own ideology, I do it to liberals all the time che-smile

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, but, they're not here though

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

details...details, besides never know what gollum-like creatures are lurking on this site

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Another outcome is that one firm starts buying other firms until it has absorbed 50% of them into itself and then it crushes the rest.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

what normal person in the normal world could you even sell this ideology too?

you could create the most propaganda poisoned description of "le tankie authoritarian totalitarian socialist state" and it would sound less anxiety inducing and more stable to live under then this

i used to think it was a top down thing, the rich trying to force this down people's throats. but even they would be fucked in this system. most of them would prefer an easily controllable minarchist "night watchman" state to this insanity.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

Amazon Security vs meemaw and pep pep’s private security contractors

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Even if I take this at face value you have to wonder how come B and H don't have to honour their contracts with A.

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Every instance of Anarcho-Capitalism or even just right libertarianism working in an example requires the AnCap society to like... Mind control people into behaving like robots programmed with legal code, never actual humans with interests, motivations, and social desires. I realise that we here on the left talk a lot about how to harness public energy, with wildly varying degrees of success, but holy shit are Ancaps on another level. At face value, they do not seem to know how people work, and seem to think they'd percolate up into a not crappy position where they're not instantly merked by a smarter-than-average charismatic mercenary. I have never met a fit one.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

so just like capitalism, except corporations are even more autocratic 😂

[–] Poogona@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Feel proud of myself for writing this exact societal formation into a story when I was a young dummy. I didn't connect it in my head to this ancap stuff back then, but it seemed appropriate to me that the drama would come from one group getting hungry and breaking the whole illusion of "mutually maintained order"

[–] ComRed2@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago
[–] VapeNoir@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago
[–] Juice@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Monopolies don't exist under capitalism doubt

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know if this person has ever had to get someone who doesn't want to play fair to honor a contract. People don't often go "well, it's not in my contract" when you're not in employee/employer relationships in my experience (and frankly not enough during employee/employer dynamics either). I always see this dynamic of "I spent money, why isn't the problem gone??"

"Expend resources" my brother in Christ you mean fight battles alongside you?? I promise it's so fucking hard to get an arbiter to understand what's going on to get to the point where you can argue an obvious case. It would take 2 months real time to get to an ambiguous case that someone wanted to call upon a back up contract and then you'd go into 7 arbitrations about the back up contracts.

Then when you start to shid and fard about not getting your way you become a pariah. So someone gets rewarded for acting like a shithead and suddenly one more dumbfuck is out of the race for statehood because nobody cared about whether the MyPillow guy's marketing consultant was allowed auggest using a certain hexcode of red for Steamboat Willy imprinted pillow cases.

It would put that much more fuel in the fire of people demanding for streamlined arbitration where one entity can make a decision and that'd be the end of it. Then all the market will have done is change who's in charge and who gets to press the fascism button.

[–] idkmybffjoeysteel@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

State monopoly of violence etc

[–] idkmybffjoeysteel@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

I love Cyberpunk 2077

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