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[–] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 63 points 2 years ago (3 children)

There is no way he actually does this. The national security state would never tolerate any serious attempt at dismantling the foreign policy doctrines that are their officially stated reason for being.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

what would it even mean? NATO is the US. if the US leaves, NATO goes with it.

it's like threatening to leave your own nose behind.

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

He might actually do it because nato officials are also attacking him now. His ego is way too big. He'll Atleast try to do it before he gets JFKed

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

before he gets JFKed

It would be funny if Biden dies during the debate, then Trump gets JFK'd

[–] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Why would they go that far though? They have to have blackmail on him for something that he cares enough to not want released. I always imagine these people, being the institutionalists they are, would go for subtle approaches like blackmail when it comes to getting what they want.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They didn’t let him do it during the first term, they won’t during the second.

[–] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

That's why I'm confident they won't let him try to do it a second time. I imagine they have to have gotten better at managing his behavior to get the outcomes they want.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

“We were always playing shell games to not make clear to our leadership how many troops we had there,” Jeffrey said in an interview. The actual number of troops in northeast Syria is “a lot more than” the roughly two hundred troops Trump initially agreed to leave there in 2019...

Officially, Trump last year agreed to keep several hundred U.S. troops — somewhere between 200 and 400, according to varying reports at the time — stationed in northeast Syria to “secure” oil fields held by the United States’ Kurdish allies in the fight against ISIS. It is generally accepted that the actual number is now higher than that — anonymous officials put the number at about 900 today — but the precise figure is classified and remains unknown even, it appears, to members of Trump’s administration keen to end the so-called “forever wars.”

https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2020/11/outgoing-syria-envoy-admits-hiding-us-troop-numbers-praises-trumps-mideast-record/170012/

Their method of managing his behavior was simply lying to him lmao

[–] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

That would have to be the first layer, lying by legal word play or omission. There must have been a lot of insubordination from the lifetime bureaucrats during his last tenure to do that. Blackmail could be the next layer, which I would imagine would stop anything else they couldn't get by just lying to him.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And you only really need to pull out stuff beyond lying for issues he's really fixated on, which varies from little to nothing, at least abroad.

Yep. I think it's especially useful for them to have a populist politician that can put his seal of approval on any of their legacy policy proposals.

[–] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago
[–] robinn_IV@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago

NATO is job creation. Trump says he will help the economy but what about all those Nazi generals he’ll put on unemployment?

[–] metaltoilet@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the one thing trump and claudia de la cruz can agree on

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago

Democracy truly is the art of the possible.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

is he pushing into "getting grassy knoll'd" territory yet?

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

that's too funny an outcome to actually happen.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

What about the existing Trump corollary where it sinewaves back into 'certain to happen' territory because it is far too funny (the Trump corollary being him becoming president)

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

Far-future pete won't be able to remember where he was on 11-22-27

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Trump leaves NATO just to recreate SEATO to go to war with China faster than the dems that want to take out Russia first then move onto china agony-deep

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

SEATO? More like cheeto

[–] TimeTravel_0@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago

the dang cheeto in the white house is gonna wreck our hegemony, wont anybody think of the economy!

:boohoo:

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i can never remember the phrasing on that quote about how "the reason for NATO's existence is to deal with the consequences of NATO's existence." i can't find it either.

[–] tripartitegraph@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

I like on trueanon when they said it was to "keep the russians out, the germans down, and the americans in"

[–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

Wtf based trumpet?

[–] MaxOS@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

They want so bad for this to become a bigger deal than Joe’s mental decline.

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