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I'm pretty sure the Ukrainians will cease firing once the Russians leave their country and stop trying to murder them.
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Here's a question nobody has been able to answer for me yet.
Why would Russia abandon a 2 year long military operation they're winning.
Literally just because a bunch of American libs said they should online?
All reports are pointing to it not being the russians that would benefit from a ceasefire.
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Because no fighting was happening in Ukraine before the Russians entered the country, right? The war just fell out of a coconut tree?
Sure, as long as the US permits them to accept a ceasefire.
What's the US going to do if Ukraine negotiates a ceasefire?
A coup leading to a more U.S.-aligned government. The U.S. has only done that 100 times, including once in the last decade right there in Ukraine.
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Ask JFK
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I'm pretty sure the Russians will cease firing once the Ukrainians stop trying to murder them.
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I'm pretty sure the 
Ukraine should leave Donbas because they're clearly not wanted there.
Aren't Ukrainian drones attacking Russian civilian targets now?
Don't know why the United States would have any say in Putin pulling the Russian paramilitary out of Ukraine. Ceasefire is simple, back your ass out of Ukraine, back to 2013 borders.
They (the US) don't, and they acknowledge that.
In the interview with fucker carlson, Putin said that Ukraine is a vassal of the US and Russia does not negotiate with Ukraine as it's useless, they want to only negotiate with the puppet master.
Hence the offer, hence the rejection. It's geopolitical theatre.
That’s really bizarre because why does America have a say in Russo-Ukrainian affairs? Shouldn’t a ceasefire be determined by the two parties not currently at a ceasefire?
Somebody who is good at geopolitics explain
Yeah why is it that also other western leaders like johnson visit ukraine and suddenly peace talks stop? https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/05/5/7344206/ Why are they encouraging a war where Ukraine would depend on even more western military and economic aid?
Somebody who navigates all this please help us understand
Was it conditional? Or was it just a straight up offer of a temporary cease fire?
I question why the US is doing the rejection rather than Ukraine (and similarly, why the UK rejected the last peace talks...)
The article you posted: "The Americans refuse to talk unless the Ukrainians are also invited"
You, for some reason: "Why is America deciding for Ukraine?"
There's more expiring guns to be given away yet, and more Ukrainian property to be bought at the firesale*
It's one of Putin's strategies: To make it look like it is a conflict between the US/NATO and Russia, not between Ukraine and Russia. He also tries to diminish Ukrainian sovereignity by making it appear as if the US is the overlord, as if Ukraine is an American puppet. It's all about making Ukraine look like it isn't its own country. That's why we get those bullshit historic lessons by that pathetic man-child.
I agree that the history lessons from Putin are bs, but hard disagree that this isn't NATO/Russia but Ukraine/Russia. Do you know what a proxy war is?
The Vietnam War was a proxy war as well, but I'm pretty sure the (north) vietnamese still quite authentically wanted USA to gtfo.
I agree with what you say. OP is implying that just because "It’s one of Putin’s strategies: To make it look like it is a conflict between the US/NATO and Russia, not between Ukraine and Russia." It's not true. And I would like to challenge that.
If there’s something I learned from libs during this war is that Russia’s no1 strategy is saying the truth of how geopolitics works. Dirty Russians… using the truth against us!
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oh for fucks sake, putins russia has never once 'negotiated' in good faith. they just use it to buy time to resupply and relocate. every peace deal theyve made, THEY broke. ukraine gets to decide when it's time to talk. the US cant stop them
In bad faith to buy time, you say? That’s rich: Former German Chancellor Merkel admits the Minsk agreement was merely to buy time for Ukraine’s arms build-up. It’s almost as if every accusation is a confession.
"sources" eh? more like lies manufactured wholesale