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[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 53 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Wasn't Palpatine a perfectly normal age for a human politician? I mean, he ate his own Force Lightning to the face and only came out looking like a melted wax statue.

Whereas Yoda being three days older than dirt legitimately did cause problems... Among them, Palpatine.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (9 children)

He would've been relatively normal aged in episode 3 but by the time of Yoda's death he was geriatric.

Also pretty sure his "deformation" was due to his corruption from the dark side and he simply hid it using sith powers and used the force lightning thing as a ploy to help make him seem like a victim

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[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also Yoda dies like 3 days after this. And Palpatine lives for 30 more years. Somehow.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

And then 30 years after that he came back as a ghost of himself. Sound in mind and uh... force ghost body... too. Dude was able to simultaneously pilot an entire fleet of Star Destroyers with his background thoughts.

Honestly, I'm warming to the whole Darth Sidious for President thing. He might be my dark horse third party favorite.

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[–] Poggervania@kbin.social 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The Jedi... the Sith... you don't get it, do you? To the galaxy, they're the same thing; just men and women with too much power, squabbling over religion, while the rest of us burn. At least the Sith are honest about what they're killing for. The Jedi are pacifists... except in times of war. They're teachers... except when it comes to telling their students the truth. And when they save you, it's only so you can suffer more.

Strangely, the message of this quote sorta fits in USA’s politics today.

EDIT: more gooder english

[–] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

at least the Sith are honest I mean, no, the MFers lie to everyone about everything because others are just means to an end so Sith manipulate others to get the desired reaction/outcome. Lie, truth, doesn't matter. Say whatever gets you more power.

And even if Sith were honest about why they wanted to kill you, they are still trying to kill you.

It's intentionally weak logic. You could flip it on its head by arguing that at least the Jedi are trying to help you dispute their flaws.

Atton Rand, the character that says this in KotOR2, is a perfect example of the problematic nature of this both sides view. Yes, the Jedi were not perfect and their flaws ultimately led to incredible suffering and the collapse of the Republic along the way. But the Sith were actively trying to collapse the republic and cause suffering. The Sith created a facist state that (if it had been successful) would have created persistent suffering indefinitely, with no hope or escape. No one thinks Luke is the bad guy form overthrowing the Empire and restoring the Jedi because the empire was utterly evil.

Like Atton Rand (depending on the path chosen), a reasonable person should realise that it is better to work with a flawed agent/system trying to do good, than to allow those flaws to cause ambivilance toward both the flawed agent/system and an obviously evil one.

Atton Rand (who's name was chosen for its similarity to "atone" as in atonement) can change from this view and end up rebuilding the Jedi order (if you play light side). Likewise, the correct answer to the "both sides" argument is to throw off ambivlance and work to fix the broken but beneficent system while fighting evil. The Democrats in the US, and left-center liberals in other countries, have flaws. Fight to fix them. Don't both sides and allow absolute evil to eliminate the flawed good.

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[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Palpatine can solve the climate crisis with green free UNLIMITED POWER

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And Yoda can store that energy to release it on demand

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[–] arymandias@feddit.de 23 points 2 years ago (6 children)

It’s not an indictment of the American system that the choice is between two geriatric men that unquestionably support weapons exports to a potentially genocidal state because my favorite Disney franchise also has old people in it.

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The current American system is that you can protest and mock one for supporting genocidal state. The other will kill you for embarrassing him and his supporters will cheer him on.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

But the genocide is non-negotiable no matter who wins. Cool country!

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[–] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

GOP voters: "Yoda has a speech impediment; therefore, we must vote for Palpatine."

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This would only be accurate if the Emperor wasn't capable of stringing two sentences together.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's only because American Democracy is dead and burried that there are no other choices than these two geriatics.

Healthy and trully Democratic systems naturally respond to a situation such as this by having more choices.

[–] freamon@endlesstalk.org 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

... which many countries don't have, because 'First Past the Post' systems naturally lead to only 2 viable choices.

They'll also be an election coming up soon in the UK - I can choose between 'Sensible Conservative' or the currently ruling 'Lunatic Conservative', but anything else would be a wasted vote.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Somewhere between -'anything else is a wasted vote' and 'leftists who refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils are enabling fascism' - is political leverage to push for better policy.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Republican alaska instituted a four candidate IRV system. Its bonkers that people aren't talking about reforming the US presidential election system to something similar. Not to mention a national initiative system. I know these would require constitutional amendments but it doesn't require an amendment to talk about it.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Oh yeah, I lived in the UK for over a decade, right after having lived in The Netherlands (who have Proportional Vote) for almost a decade, and am well aware of just how horribly rigged the British voting and political system are, especially after Brexit (which I saw first hand, after which I did my own personal Leave of a country I, frankly, see no positive future for)

My own country, Portugal, has it's own rigged system that gives nice 15% boosts to representativeness versus actual votes received, for the 2 major parties, though fortunatly it's not just one seat per electoral circle, so whilst nowhere as Democratic as PV at least there are 8 parties with parliamentary representation, small parties still get half the parliamentarians that their votes would've yielded under PV (unlike in the UK where the Green Party gets 1 million votes in 40 million - so 2.5% of votes - and ends up with 1 seat in 600 - so about 0.15% of seats), and even with the rigging the upcoming elections (next month) do not seem on track to yield a parliamentary majority for any one party.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The Jedi Order's problem is Yoda. No being can wield that kind of power for centuries without becoming complacent at best or corrupt at worst. He has no idea that it's overtaken him; he no longer sees all the little cumulative evils that the Republic tolerates and fosters, from slavery to endless wars, and he never asks, 'Why are we not acting to stop this?' Live alongside corruption for too long, and you no longer notice the stench.

[–] Matombo@feddit.de 18 points 2 years ago (4 children)

America, hate to breake it to you: If you have no choice (and Trump isn't one) your democracy is already dead.

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[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Palpatine is a stupid bitch. Just wait for him to shoot his dumb ass lightening and then reverse it on him.

HE ALWAYS FALLS FOR IT

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (4 children)

biden is not comparable to yoda though.

star wars is an allegory to the vietnam war. the US is the empire.

[–] freamon@endlesstalk.org 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Star Wars is often "Schrödinger's Political Allegory" - the Empire is British/Roman/German but also American (if Endor = Vietnam, and Jedha = the Middle East), but the Rebels are somehow American too. Whatever side you're on, you can use Star Wars to cast yourself as the good guy, and the other side as the baddies.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

the rebels are supposed to be vietnam

[–] freamon@endlesstalk.org 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I realise that Lucas has said that the ewoks in Return of the Jedi were representations of the North Vietnamese. If you look at Rogue One, though, Saw's men are called terrorists, they use IEDs, it's a desert environment ... so the Rebels are, um, ISIS? Who do we want to win again?

Star Wars has always been too flakey to say Rebels are definitely this, or the the Empire are definitely that. It's popularity, and it's use by people on any part of the political spectrum as a a recruitment tool, depends on the fact that the US is magically both.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

to be fair the new trilogy went a bit off rails lol

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[–] hglman@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Yoda was blind to the rise of fascism and got overrun by the emperor. He also supported a questionable system that clearly had lots of issues for hundreds of years.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Star Wars isn't an allegory to the Vietnam War. That's just something Lucas said to sound smart. At no point during the plot of the OG trilogy does it draw parallels to any of the real world events in the Vietnam War.

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[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You're overthinking things again.

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[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 10 points 2 years ago

Antiques Roadshow... anyone know what I'm talking about? Woot woot! :-P

[–] mydude@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

bUt theY aRe bOth sO oLd...

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[–] profdc9@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Isn't there a younger Sith that we can support?

[–] anakin78z@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Yoda didn't live long after that picture was taken...

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Now I want to see a deepfake video of Biden saying, “when 900 years old you reach, look as good, you will not” in his normal voice.

I'll settle for someone throwing Trump into a bottomless pit.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago
[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Might as well not vote for yoda to really show him how old he is. He will definitely see clearly in his mistakes then.

Edit:/s, obviously sarcasm

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Don't worry, no matter who wins, the country will continue to break oil production records, so the climate apocalypse will sort it all out :).

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