I mean I would hope so. That's one of the biggest jobs of being vice president.
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I hope that Biden gets reelected and then a few months in steps down and gives us the first female and black president. The maggats will lose their fucking minds and I'm going to have a trailer of popcorn ready for the show.
I don't really like Kamala Harris much, but I really doubt she'd be substantially worse than Biden. And probably miles better than virtually any Republican.
Right now I don't care about us moving forward policy wise. At the moment what we need is more stability and let the states work on progressive policy like protecting trans, queer, etc, access to birth control, abortions, etc.
Biden has been way better than people give him credit for (including the left). He has not only been able to (with help obviously) undo most of the damage trump caused but has also brought us back to a fairly roaring economy despite the insane inflation thanks to capitalism being capitalism.
let the states work on progressive policy like protecting trans, queer, etc, access to birth control, abortions, etc.
That's a great way to make those into Red State Problems that will never be fixed for the whole country, because legislators from blue states represent people for whom the problems are solved and experience no pressure to address the problems beyond that.
I didn't expect lollypops and ice cream when Biden was elected but if you really look at his accomplishments, he is doing a really good job. Certainly the MSM isn't reporting it so you have to dig to find it, and it's there.
I disagree that Biden is doing a really good job. I think he is not doing enough to combat climate change, labor rights, income inequality, or human rights abuses at every level of government. His foreign policy is status quo, which isn't good.
He's a functioning adult with a modicum of shame, which is to say he's worlds better than any Republican, especially Trump. He's doing his job and making thoughtful, considered decisions. In comparison to the previous administration, that's a grand slam, but compared to the leadership we need right now, it's not good enough.
If Harris becomes president and chooses to run for a second term, there's a good chance we're losing 2028. She lacks charisma and often comes off as unprepared even for softball questions, and her history does... not endear her to large parts of the Dem electorate.
Best hope for a non-dictator running on the GOP ticket.
Hell, maybe I'll be proven wrong, and she'll turn out great in the position. But I'm not exactly thrilled by her performance so far.
Wouldn't it be funny if it were Harris v. Trump in 2028? I mean Donald to be clear:-P.
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I'm not gonna say it would be wrong to happen that way, but I do feel like it would be a disservice to civil rights for the first woman president to be a matter of technicality, deigned to be given by an old white man. It would always be a bit marred by that.
While I don't disagree. I wouldn't be surprised if they had already discussed this possibility. And seriously, what is the difference between him stepping down after the next election or 3 months ago? It's more likely than not to happen legitimately versus "health issues".
To clarify, I mean becoming president through the vice presidency, vs being elected as president outright.
Right and that was my point. She agreed to be his vp and had to be aware that he is more likely to have health issues that have him step down even if only temporarily. For her legacy and the "look" or whatever, there is no difference between him having to step-down today or after the election it's also how she could (in theory) get 3 terms in office.
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That’s one of the biggest jobs of being vice president
That's one of the only jobs of being VP. Be ready in case your boss dies, and cast the tie-breaking vote in the Senate. The position serves no other purpose. Just ask the first guy who took the job:
My country has in its wisdom contrived for me the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived or his imagination conceived
-- John Adams
One of Biden's biggest mistakes was choosing Harris as his VP, she's been pretty much worthless as a VP, other than doing her tiebreaker votes, but I'm pretty sure anyone in that position would've done the same exact thing. Still though, apart from recent history, VP's have usually been pretty much ceremonial in that role, so maybe it's more a return to form having someone like her there, rather than a Cheney or a Biden actually being considered a key part of the administration.
Biden being a VP was the only other reason to vote for him besides his stated ability to negotiate with Senate Republicans...
They were both bullshit reasons. When a candidate the party likes can't win a primary, they make them a VP and then claim that makes them experienced.
Hell, with Biden they even said that wouldn't happen because of his age, then over a decade later he still became president.
There's an obsession about name recognition, ignorant of the fact that even the most politically disengaged Americans will know both candidates before the general even starts.
Also, one of the critical qualities people seek for a VP is that they’re boring.
You dont pick a vp that’s popular- they might get more popular than you- and you don’t pick a vo that’s “controversial”
One might risk more, if the person is from a battleground state and is popular,
Biden gave her basically all meh jobs as VP too. Might have been on purpose. Give her something to do without setting her up to primary him.
she wasn't popular enough to primary him. there was some issues, IIRC, with her history as a prosecutor (of the "tough on crime" sort.) She's certainly more qualified that Trump, or anyone trump would pick as a VP at this point; but I don't think she'd win her own election... even if Biden had worked to set her up to replace him.
Can someone explain to me why I shouldn’t like Kamala Harris? And if someone says because she hasn’t been an effective VP, could someone show me an example of an effective VP in modern US history?
Cheney was pretty effective. Not that that was a good thing.
He was part of the Nixon, Ford, and both Bush Whitehouses...served in Congress during Reagan.
He knew where a lot of bodies went, which helps you get your things done.
As a VP backing up Biden, I think she's swell. As the candidate who has to beat Trump, I don't think she's strong enough. She shat the bed in the primary debates, and she has a complicated record as a prosecutor and previously supported policies that make it easy to criticize. She's either "evolved" on divisive issues, or she's on the wrong side of history.
The same could be said of Biden, but he has the decades of connections and experience, not to mention charisma, that helped him pull ahead in the primary and the general in 2020. I don't like him, and I think he's very beatable, but I think Harris would be much worse. In an open primary, I don't think Harris would win the nomination, even running as an incumbent (like if Biden stepped down). Maybe if Biden wins and then immediately steps down, giving her four years to establish herself, she could craft a new identity. But it is too late for that now.
If Biden were unavailable as a candidate, we'll get four more years of Trump.
To name a few:
-Championed and implemented legislation that put parents in prison if their child skipped school (truency)
-She blocked evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row until the courts forced her to do so
-Put 1900 people in prison for smoking weed, while giggling about smoking it herself
-Blocked access to 12$ DNA tests, to check if the preserved DNA from a crime is from the defendant.
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2020/10/17/924766186/the-story-behind-kamala-harriss-truancy-program https://www.theblaze.com/news/kamala-harris-criminal-justice-record
Joe Biden.
That is the big advantage of the Dems here. If Trump croaks before the election, the GOP has nothing but a field of debris. If Biden does, Harris is still there.
You say that like it’s a good thing. She is very very unpopular.
Has she done something to earn that status? As far as I can tell, I just never hear about her. Over the last three presidents the only time I recall a VP being particularly prominent was when his president's followers called for his hanging.
People don’t like that she aggressively prosecuted people for weed. She’s a bland neo liberal like the rest of them.
Has she done something to earn that status?
Does that matter?
If she's unpopular, it really makes no difference why.
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Has she even spoken about abortion rights yet? I remember this video where she doesn't even say the word lol
Kamala Harris' BIZARRE Answer To Abortion Question - TMR 2022
At least this authoritarian will have a big ol (D) next to their name! That's what's important right guys?!
God I can't wait for HiroCheeto to croak so I can go back to hating on Dems without immediately getting some schpeel about solidarity. Yes, I'll vote Democrat, but fuck do I want an actual progressive party.
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