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On April 1, a tax increase on alcohol known as the "beer tax" will come into effect, meaning Canadians may soon pay more for their beverage of choice.

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[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Unpopular opinion - good. It's a known carcinogen. Add onto that the social issues it can cause and I think it makes some sense to tax it more that other things to bring in those external costs that were being "passed on" to society in the form of healthcare and social services.

[–] Two2Tango@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

I hope their goal is to help me quit drinking. In which case it's great for me, but RIP small craft brewers

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Where else are we supposed to generate tax income? Surely the dry husk of the working class has more to squeeze out of!

[–] Formes@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You know what is amazing: They can index taxes to inflation, but they can't be damned to index minimum wage to the cost of living increase.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

You don't need to do anything to index percentages of sales prices to inflation, when inflation results in increases in sales prices.

Raising the tax rate is not indexing taxes to anything.

[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Time to bust out the homebrew kit...

[–] bjorney@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If you are looking to save money, take the fraction of a cent price increase in stride

Signed: guy who has spent thousands of dollars on home brewing equipment

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Depends on the volume you drink. If you can save a buck a beer and drink 2-3 tallboys a day you could offset the cost of the gear in a year.

[–] bjorney@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, but that is also contingent on you placing absolutely zero value on your time.

An absolute bottom of the barrel recipe (10lb 2 row, 1lb c-10, 1oz hallertau, s-04) will run you about $30-40 per 20L batch. So after you spend hundreds of dollars on equipment, you are only saving like $40 per 10 hours spent brewing

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

placing absolutely zero value on your time

I see you've met my boss!

Is it 10 active hours or a 10 hour period during which you nanny an ongoing process? I started turning 2 days a month into bread baking/meat smoking/laundry day. Each job only needs an hour each of active time but spread out over 4-6hrs. I could totally squeeze in an additional project...

[–] bjorney@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Brew day is ~8 hours, I would say it's half nannying, there's usually 2 hours where you can full on walk away, but the rest is either active cleaning or you have to press a button or stir a thing every 10 minutes so you are glued to your pot

Bottling is another ~2 hours or so (sanitizing bottles and capping them, cleaning the used fermenter) - you can cut this down to half an hour if you forego bottling, but that's another $1500 in capital costs for kegging equipment

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Hmm, that would be a big jump in the workload but it would fit with the twice a month schedule. I'll have to take some time before I grok this problem.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

Oh no, your boss values your time very highly. They just want to keep all of that value for themself.

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

14-21 tallboys is 19-29 "standard drinks" a week.

That's a lot of alcohol.

https://www.ccsa.ca/canadas-guidance-alcohol-and-health

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

I know, Maybe if we had proper healthcare, and a government that works for it's people instead of corporations, Canadians wouldn't have to kill themselves just to sleep at night.

[–] doylio@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago
brew create --cask molson
[–] survivalmachine@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

I'm mixed on this one.

As a detterrent to drinking, great. Fuck alcohol.

As a serious source of taxation, I hate any sort of tax that disproportionally burdens the poorer members of society.