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I mean like why? Just open and update when I'm done that's what every other browser does. Stop making me wait to use the Internet firefox!

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[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The better approach would be to prepare the update in the background and swap out the version on the next start

Isn't that what it does? That's how it works on macOS, and I get prompted to restart on Linux when I install updates in the background.

[–] finthechat@kbin.social 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Go to options. Scroll halfway down the page. Firefox gives you the choice to change updates from automatic to whenever you want.

https://i.imgur.com/NxpbIH4.png

[–] ArtificialLink@lemy.lol 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I prefer automatic updates.

[–] stom@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] ArtificialLink@lemy.lol 2 points 2 years ago

I don't like when it chooses to auto update. Its a very minor but annoying annoyance

[–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Ubuntu has an even better approach. It updates silently while you are using it. Then your tab crashes. And when you retry it tells you to restart firefox. Truly genius *cheffs kiss

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

As an Arch user. I wanted to use Arch at work too. Well, they want me to use Kubuntu (or any other prefered Ubuntu, but I like KDE so I do what every other dev uses)... except for Home Office ofc. Arch.

Still. I hate this stupid update thing. Suddenly I get 20 notifications of KDE system wanting a reboot because of updates and Firefox doing exactly this.

The worst. When I open a new tab by middleclicking a link, the tab crashes. I restart Firefox and the new Tab is gone forever. Sometimes its easy to get what I saw but not always.

[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

How else would you know it was doing anything?

[–] itsnotits@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

chef's* kiss

[–] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago

You guys close your browser? Weird

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm not really hankering for that 4 seconds it takes to restart.

[–] ArtificialLink@lemy.lol 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Takes longer on older hardware

[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I’m running a 12 year old laptop with 80 tabs open. Last time I did apt upgrade and had to restart the browser it took about six seconds.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

My T400 and T480 are nearly indistinguishable from my ThinkCentre M70q Gen 2.

[–] GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

It matters more when you clear history and cookies automatically at close. You lose your entire session.

[–] brainw0rms@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

huh? at least on windows, firefox just uses its background maintenance service to take care of updates. no admin needed. I don't even notice when it happens, except for the occasional "what's new" page that opens along with firefox.

[–] ksharp@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago

There is a comment below where someone posted a picture of the settings. Clearly it is insanely easy to make Firefox update in whatever way you want: automatic, manually, automatically in the background.

OP completely ignored facts and only wants their moment to stand on a soap box with their stupid and lazy complaint.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I don't think I've ever noticed Firefox updating. The only sign I get that it updates is that when it does a special tab opens telling me about the new features.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is what I hate on school computers, and it drives people away from Firefox.
You don't have admin privilege, you can't update, so don't even try.
I always disable auto-updates on those.

[–] ArtificialLink@lemy.lol -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

, my work computer requires admin permissions to install anything. But for some reason, especially with Firefox or any other web browser. You can just click cancel on the enter the administrative password andshit screen and then it just installs anyways.

[–] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 years ago

It installs it into your local user folder instead.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago

Just use a a package manager

[–] woodgen@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Applications updating themselves... must be a Windows thing. Didn't they want to copy package management from Linux? Maybe AI can help.

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

I imagine for security best practices, software prefers update on open (if not update on checking a central update server regularly like yum -whatever update), but for user convenience this would be better for so many things.

[–] daqqad@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Went not just disable automatic updates? Update when you have time for it.

[–] rushaction@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

My issue with FF's auto update is that the behavior is how painfully the auto-update works with multiple profiles.

I'll have one window (well three) open for some (measurable in days) time.

  1. FF updates silently, I haven't restarted my browser so I haven't noticed.
  2. I go to open a session in the second (or third profiles)
  3. FF decides now is a great time to apply the update, after all it just opened right?
  4. All the existing open browsing sessions in the other profiles get bricked. The tabs just stop responding, no browsing works, just dead in the water.

I have to shut it (all?) down to get it working again.

I don't know how Chrome handles this so I cannot compare. TBH still worth using FF over that adware!

[–] Mio@feddit.nu 2 points 2 years ago

I see it like thank you that i don't have to go to Mozilla website and download the installer. So much time saved, and it only takes like 5 second without manually doing anything. On Linux i saw please restart Firefox tab and clicked it. No problem. I got the update fast.

[–] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Would you prefer:

“Firefox Updater

This app is preventing shutdown”

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] TurtleTourParty@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago

My laptop won't charge from USB-C if the battery fully dies, so I shut it down to prevent that.

[–] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I got a X570 board with the really loud fan.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Instead of sleep mode, I think they meant.

[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

They meant - it seems unusual to shut the computer all the way down on a regular basis instead of just using sleep mode most of the time.

[–] 30p87@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

I kinda have an up-to-date fetish, otherwise I wouldn't use Arch testing everywhere, so every time I boot up my PC I instinctively update the system, including firefox, despite that I am already using it.