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Hawaii rules against public carrying of guns without permit citing ‘aloha spirit’
(www.theguardian.com)
it's official: according to Hawaii, guns have no chill
this post was submitted on 10 Feb 2024
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They're tools designed specifically for killing, that's kind of the point
Wrong. They were originally designed to open beer bottles.
Don't kill the chill.
Is all I ever asked.
Hand guns are made for killin'
They ain't no good for nothin' else
And if you like to drink your whiskey
You might even shoot yourself
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Hmm here is an idea. What if we made a religion that was against open carry and was technically Christianity? Could we use the veto power religion now has over the Bill of Rights?
No. Religious arguments against abortion are actually relying on the definition of what constitutes a life, not the pure fact that their religion says it's wrong.
You can get out of military service this way though.
It has nothing to do with the possibility of ending a life, otherwise republicans would actually care about what happens in schools (be it shootings or diddling, republicans are OK with them happening in schools).
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at least theyre tryin
It was always that way, the problem was that they wouldn’t give out permits to anyone.
That's didn't feel like a problem. No permits, no guns.
That only applies to law abiding citizens. To be fair though this is Hawaii we're talking about so I imagine it's much harder to obtain a gun illegally there.
Considering the easiest way to get a gun "illegally" is to buy one in the bordering state with the most lax gun laws and then smuggle it back into your state, yeah, getting one in Hawaii is probably more difficult than getting one in Mexico.
I hate this argument because it shows just how little people know about gun laws.
It's federally illegal to buy a pistol outside of your home state. You can't just go to a gun shop the next state over and buy a Glock 17.
For long guns, the seller must follow the laws of the state in which it is sold AND in which the buyer lives.
When I sold guns and someone from New Jersey wanted to buy a rifle, they had to produce their New Jersey permit and I to do the New Jersey background check and waiting period on top of the NICS background check required federally. I had to reference New Jersey laws and could only sell guns that were legal in that state.
We had a spreadsheet we kept up to date with every firearm we had in stock, new or used, listing whether it was legal in each state.
So it sounds like you're a law abiding citizen..
The argument I'm replying to is that criminals are buying guns in neighboring states because the laws are looser and they can get away with it.
But the laws regarding buying a gun outside one's home state are federal, and don't change from state to state. A California resident buying a Glock 43 in Texas is no more legal than them buying it in California. In fact - it's moreso. Buying it in California is just buying a gun illegally by California law. Buying it in Texas is violating California, Texas, and Federal law, and then illegally smuggling the gun afterwards.
Well, actually, they cited the state and federal constitution and chose to interpret "well regulated militia" does not accurately describe untrained civilians even though the SCOTUS disagreed. Which is a little more substantial than just Aloha Spirit, imo.
I love the aloha spirit! I hope it spreads like COVID. I mean, in a good way.
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