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https://fortune.com/2024/02/09/gen-z-grad-two-degrees-breaks-down-tears-minimum-wage-employers-resume-in-person/

“I was so upset and disappointed in myself because growing up, I was told that if I get an education, if I go to college, then I’ll be successful,” Santos told Business Insider—and she’s not the first Gen Zer to complain about feeling tricked into pursuing further education.

Just last month, 27-year-old Robbie Scott similarly went viral on TikTok for insisting that Gen Z isn’t any less willing to work than generations before. Instead, he said, they are “getting angry and entitled and whiny” about the prospect of having to work hard for the rest of their adult life, only to “get nothing in return.”

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[–] whatup@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The economy sucks and capitalism is evil, but I’m also kinda relieved that yuppie white kids are finally suffering financially like the rest of us. I’m really hoping that the collective pain will lead to class solidarity.

[–] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] whatup@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

getting a degree is not an indication of yuppiehood, do you still live in the fucking 70s? People working hard and getting no return is not a good thing, and these people are workers that you're cheering for the downfall of.

[–] whatup@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

and these people are workers that you're cheering for the downfall of.

Chill. I’m not cheering their downfall, just recognizing that people from more privileged backgrounds are less likely to fight against capitalism unless it fucks them over personally.

do you still live in the fucking 70s

Obviously not if white girls who got to go to college can’t even get a service industry job. Clearly, the well is drying up and everybody’s feeling the pinch.

[–] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

accelerationist garbage. People from privileged background are just less willing to fiht it period, as long as it benefits them, and they're still doing better. Now they'll fight harder for scraps.

And it's also the black girl that went to college, and the asian guy and Native American. Most people that go to college are white because most people in the country are white, it has not been a symbol of class or whiteness in particular for a while now.

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[–] TimmytheDragon@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

2 degrees and still minimum wage? Gosh.

[–] LaBellaLotta@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lotta very cynical crabs in a bucket In this thread.

First off: sure this is a psyop, whatever, fine. What does it accomplish for the capitalist class exactly? To demoralized us and create inter worker schaudenfreude? Seems to be working great! Look yeah she’s definitely “performing” because anyone filming themselves for social media is by definition, and, we all are in some form or another. Does not invalidate the suffering she’s experiencing.

Second off: yes, it is good that the immiseration of Capitalism is finally catching up with the Mayo ass children of privilege in this country. Way overdue. But to engage so gleefully in schaudenfreude at the suffering of this young persons whose life force is being drained out of them through the exact same exploitative process we are all victim of. Truly anathema to what we claim to stand for here. And more importantly, it denies the most singularly crucial tool we have as workers in the struggle against capitalism; Solidarity.

I am sorry for all of you that your cynicism has grown so strong it has denied you the empathic capacity that is necessary for solidarity.

[–] Carguacountii@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

But you understand the 'cynical' response, right? I agree its not necessarily constructive, but the crabs at the bottom of the bucket have experienced the betrayal of those near the top many times - the labor aristocrats who will talk about solidarity and crab buckets when they start being pushed down by the fisherperson, but when they are on their way up are suddenly quiet? I don't mean socialists or communists so much, but certainly that happens many times (to revolutionary movements too) and the only fix is for those better compensated workers to make the first move, in deed not just in words, to show they're willing to actually operate in everybody's interests. No 'crab' at the bottom trusts or believes those near the top when they start talking about solidarity or the concerns of the working class, because of the repeated betrayals - an appeal to the masses to help, followed by ditching the concerns of those masses once they've been used for the desired purpose.

The schadenfreude reaction is akin to a camel trainer throwing a shirt for the camels to tear apart - it stops them attacking the trainer. But its only one type of reaction, others are sympathetic or empathetic, and I'm sure there are more.

The point however is to appoint or select a representative for a particular social issue, from the media class (i.e will share and understand media class interests), through which socio-economic trends and events can be discussed in a controlled manner. This person wants to be a professional influencer (i.e manipulator, propagandist), and has demonstrated her credentials, so she's been given a shot.

To give a concrete example, there is currently a recession (a 'bust' after the 'boom' or from the perspective of capital, a harvest or cull period) in tech. Why is the media not talking to and featuring tech workers about this, but instead talking to bosses and propagandists? Because tech workers are infrastructure workers, and if they were organised and angry enough, they could like any infrastructure worker pose a real danger to the interests of the elites. This isn't the only trend occuring, there's also migration, outsourcing, expensive foriegn wars, plague, inflation, retail rentierism collapsing, another financial 'crisis' and so on. Regardless, the point is to have all these things discussed in the public sphere by carefully selected representatives.

This is because its much easier to control a few people than many - why representative democracy or republicanism is favoured, because its easier to coerce, control, bribe etc a few people rather than many. Its a class war, and the same strategies and tactics employed during any other kind of war are used here, including the 'informational' part of war. We'll know we're winning when we can choose (and vet, and dismiss) our own representatives, rather than having them chosen for us like in this case, or better still represent ourselves. Currently, we're not winning, and the ease with which this kind of informational or psyop part of the war is conducted by the ruling classes, eliciting the desired reactions (including naively taking their propagandists in good faith), is emblamatic of that.

Performing is not something we all do. Its something actors do, or other entertainers. Crying because you can't get a job is very different from pretending to cry and pretending that you can't get a job. Mimicry can be very skilled and elicit the same reactions as the real thing, but whats true and false does matter.

[–] tamagotchicowboy@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

Not working well for steam major like me neither, doesn't work for anyone I know that stayed in Hellmurica to the point I try to help college students I encounter (majority are also poor) since I'd be impressed to see someone 'succeed' into a STEM career (or any tbh) of some sort that doesn't have to emigrate first with my own eyes. As far as I know it doesn't matter what you major in nor how many degrees, the fuck you're doing anything related and good luck getting anything at all.

Then asshole boomers and petite bourgeois or outright bourgeois sit around calling everyone lazy because they refuse to hire the unemployed or those who wish not to be exploited stand up for themselves a little. Classes are ossified then throw on all the bigotry, they make us attack each other instead of them, welcome to hell.

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