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“Florida Democrats don’t know why Taylor Swift is naming an upcoming song on her new album ‘Florida!!!’ or the reason she chose to hold three concerts in Miami less than a month before the November elections,” Politico reports.

“But their excitement around the news is less about ‘why?’ and more about leveraging Swift’s celebrity status to fill the blank space for beleaguered voters tired of losing to Republicans.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 74 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (17 children)

It's weird how moderates think Taylor likes Biden and doesn't just hate trump.

It's the only reason most Biden voters are Biden voters, which is why he's polling so terribly

There's no reason we have to be running such an unlikable candidate again, just because trump is even more unlikable. It's only worked 50% of the time now.

Edit:

Wow. A lot of people don't seem to know many Dem politicians...

Biden himself said over 50 Dems could easily beat trump.

I think this guy would be a good option, but there's lots of others

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Ossoff

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Literally anyone under 55 could probably beat Trump.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Seriously.

People act like a candidate has to be perfect, if oring that Biden has been polling terribly and failed multiple times at becoming president before narrowerly squeaking by trump.

[–] 7u5k3n@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Yeah it would be really nice if there was a D that folks liked.. I'd love to see a landslide election. But those days are gone I'm afraid.

THO.. has there been a Democrat or Republican in the last.. 50 years that folks really liked?

Maybe Obama... But other than him...idk

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Yeah, both parties seem to just be running on "I'm not the other guy" recently, and it's getting old (though admittedly the Republicans have been running on it a lot harder). Obama was the last candidate to be nominated on a platform that tried to make the case for a future.

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Bill Clinton was popular for a while, which is a shame since he contributed heavily to the deregulated economy we have now

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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

FPTP needs to go before we can have earnest conversations about how milquetoast a politician Biden is.

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[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 65 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)
[–] frunch@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

God damn was that refreshing to read! I appreciate your enthusiasm! 🥂

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

GOPers are seriously unlikeable motherfuckers to start with

I dunno, the racism and simplistic explanations seem to be pretty likeable among a certain crowd

[–] Tarkcanis@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The majority of that demographic is dying in the next couple decades. That's why the GOP is so desprate.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If that worked, it would have happened a long time ago. There's always been a certain group of people who are attracted to authoritarian narratives. Perhaps we won't be locked in battle with them forever, but we can't take it for granted that they'll just die out.

[–] Tarkcanis@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

It's happened many times before, the old guard dies out and the party shifts further to the left just enough to win elections again.

[–] DunkinCoder@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I mean, look at all of the conspiracy theories swirling about now.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

whoever has the most likes wins

Well, whoever spreads the most hates wins. I don't think even the Trump fans like Trump. They just think that Dems eat babies, want to turn them into femboys, or replace them with blacks and Jews or whatever.

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago (3 children)

If Taylor Swift saves democracy by getting a bunch of her fans to vote... I would buy at least one of her albums. I wouldn't listen to it, but I'd be thankful just the same.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t listen to it

I’m not a Swiftie. My sisters were big fans growing up, but I couldn’t care less about her music.

But when Midnights held all ten of the Billboard top 10 slots, and people were talking about it, I decided to listen to it on a walk with my dog.

The music isn’t amazing or anything, but it isn’t bad, either. It’s pretty standard modern pop, I would assume. But her lyrics are amazing. I’m not exactly sure why, but that album resonated with me, a man in my thirties (who admittedly prides himself on finding things to like about stuff). I listened to it twice that day, and I still listen to some of the songs on it on occasion.

I can understand why people get really into her music.

Anyway, all I’m saying is that if you do buy her album to thank her for saving democracy, it might be worth a listen. There is certainly better music out there, but also MUCH worse.

[–] schnokobaer@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I’m not a Swiftie

when Midnights held all ten of the Billboard top 10 slots, and people were talking about it, I decided to listen to it

music isn’t amazing or anything but her lyrics are

resonated with me

a man in my thirties

still listen to some of the songs on it on occasion

Are you me?? Like I genuinely could've written this drunk and forgot. That's literally exactly what I did with that album and how I feel about it.

I listened to it several times for a month even, so much that I got a good chuckle when Spotify informed me in the yearly review that Taylor Swift was my most played artist in 22, which is admittedly easy when all you hear normally is radio stations and playlists with various artists. Still, hilarious to see her on top of my usual metalcore bands.

Some lyrics still randomly pop into my mind these days and then I have that song stuck in my head for a while. I then sometimes put it on while cooking. It's fun music to sing loudly and awkwardly to when you are alone, lol.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 4 points 2 years ago

Another man in my 30s here, generally listen to stuff like 70s punk, hard rock, classic blues, outlaw country, alternative rock and post punk, prog and folk.

Haven't quite reached this point yet, but listened to folklore a few times when it came out and liked it quite a lot. Checked out Midnights for the first time the other day, and... Yeah. It might be happening to me too.

[–] Grabthar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you mix some Veritechs into this plotline, I think you have the makings of the next Macross series, and I'd go out and buy that for a dollar.

[–] justabigemptyhole@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think you may be onto something. I'm more interested, though, in giant transforming robot airplanes than a music and dance number

[–] Grabthar@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

That's the weird part about Macross; all the series somehow involve both being central to the story. But I would definitely be more into a Taylor Swift show if there were transforming mechas involved.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago
[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How about the florida democrats don't run shitty ex republican candidates and actually manages a decent campaign for once in their fucking lives? Nikki Freid is right there and they did her dirty. We don't need Taylor swift, we need someone who gives some modicum of a shit about florida. For being a huge "swing state" they sure don't seem to think we're worth the effort

[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Every year, it gets tougher and tougher to take a stand on the coastal states. Literally. And, Florida's gonna be the first to pull an Atlantis. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What do you mean? It's harder to justify improving the political situation in coastal states because of global warming?

[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Um. Florida's coastline is literally dredged back from the ocean onto the beach by heavy machinery nearly every night. The state is slipping into the ocean so fast, the local government is literally clawing it back in impotent denial.

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[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

No, he means literally, it's physically difficult to stand

Because the coast is sinking

[–] LocoOhNo@lemmus.org 35 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Good luck getting the Latino voters in Florida vote blue. There's been a generational effort to convince the Cuban and Puerto Rican voters that anyone left of Mussolini is Fidel Castro incarnate.

I love my Latino brothers and sisters, but Florida is not the place to hope for a blue wave.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Actually Latins in Florida are not a block. Young Latin voters tend to vote Democrat- older Republican.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I thought Latinos in general, not just in FL, tend to lean more conservative? For years there was the narrative that Dems would just wipe out Republicans if they got the Latino vote on board, but Latinos tend to be more conservative-leaning in general, are themselves against illegal immigration, probably trend more religious, and really haven't come out to help Democrats.

Democrats in general tend to try to pull in alot of groups that don't turn out to be very reliable voters. Oftentimes I think they're trying to do the right thing for these various marginalized groups, but then those groups just don't have their back when they're really needed. Youth voters might be getting a bit better in recent years, but that hasn't always been the case.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 years ago

I thought Latinos in general, not just in FL, tend to lean more conservative?

In 2020, Latino voters voted Biden 2-1. They've been reliably Democratic, but just not to the extent of Black voters. They have recently trended more Republican, but that doesn't make them conservative (at least in the big picture everything falls on a single political axis).

[–] crashoverride@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

It's really hard to see that Latino's just can't see that they're voting against their interest when they vote conservative, at least in this country.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

remember on election night in 2016 when HRC was doing a preemptive victory lap in BlUe TeXaS while PA, OH, MI and all of the other "firewall states" that were supposed to guarantee her an easy win turned red? Let's not go looking for treasure up our own assholes and instead let's ensure that the easy wins actually happen.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How long until Republican gun nuts inadvertently end up supporting Taylor Swift by buying a CD album of her music just to shoot it?

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

Damn. Never imagined a world where Taylor Swift could influence politics. Every little bit helps I guess.

[–] InformalTrifle@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Betteridges law. So the answer is no, Taylor Swift won’t tilt Florida blue, unfortunately.

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[–] Pizza_Rat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Wildest? Really?

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Gee, we never considered how toxic Republican politics are living in a state where you can't even mention Black History Month until Taylor Swift told me to register to vote!"

[–] everett@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Cool, we'll take it.

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