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[–] alvvayson@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I presume Blinken means Netanyahu with "he"? Or does he mean himself, Blinken?

Because Netanyahu is a genocidal psychopath who doesn't feel any remorse for any of the victims of Oct 7th, the hostages or the civilians in Gaza. He just wants ethnically cleansed land.

Blinken, I do believe, will feel guilty for supporting these atrocities.

Heck, one of our longest serving Christian democratic prime Ministers was an ardent supporter of Israel during his time in power, but really felt guilty afterwards.

I, too, feel guilty for having ever been supportive of Israel. It's just not right.

[–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If only there was something the US could do to show they don't support the genocide.

Too bad there isn't anything. Oh well, we'll just have to live with our choices.

/S

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What choices? There's nothing to do!

/s

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Oh, that's funny. Thanks!

I always say thots and players. Great minds don't fall far from the tree.

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Thats unfair on netanyahu…

He also wants to keep power and isn’t afraid of killing thousands of Gazans and Israeli’s to do so.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Aye Blinken, that’s so thoughtful

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But it obviously doesn't bother him so much, that he would actually do something about it.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Probably more apt to say he can't do very much

The Biden team has pretty clearly demonstrated that they see being able to influence Israel from their side as more valuable in terms of what they can do to limit Israel's destruction of Gaza than what they can do by joining the international condemnations.

And to a certain extent they might be right? So far Biden's been able to negotiate hostage swaps and autonomy for a hypothetical post war Gaza, and sanctioning settlers is definitely a step in the right direction compared to past presidents, although I'd have gone as far as dragging American participants back to be prosecuted and imprisoned for that shit but whatcha gonna do?

But the long and short remains, Blinken may be hand tied on what he's allowed to press Israel on, and on how much he can question the official strategy from the whitehouse.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Biden team has pretty clearly demonstrated that they see being able to influence Israel from their side as more valuable in terms of what they can do to limit Israel’s destruction of Gaza than what they can do by joining the international condemnations.

this has basically been the american position since, basically... always.

it doesn't work. No president has ever had enough of a spine to actually pull that trigger.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It sure stopped the Suez Crisis, last I checked Egypt still controls both sides of the canal, and that was this policy put into direct action.

Believe it or not choosing to not blow up a decades long alliance and show the world that your reliability as a diplomatic partner sways election to election does actually work sometimes.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

It's a bit inaccurate to say that it worked in the Suez Crisis.

yes, Eisenhower cut (or tried to cut) private aid to Israel (about 100 million annually at the time,) But he also sought (via UN,) sanctions that were vetoed by France and Britain, both of whom were also in on the invasion.

Also, Eisenhower put inordinate pressure on the UK, rejecting an IMF request (because they needed oil, and were loosing money,); while also threatening to dump UK bonds held by the US. (which would have had deleterious effects on their economy... though those effects were grossly overstated by Macmillan. Further pressure was laid out by the Saudi embargo on both Britain and France- and the US refused to help alleviate that.

regardless, my point stands that simply being "good friends" with Israel doesn't really give you the ability to hold them back. particularly when they don't believe you'd actually do it. The Suez Crisis was resolved at least as much by pressure on Britain and France as it was on Israel- because they were desperate for oil.