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A 15-year decline in Texas teen birth rates slid to a stop—and converted into a modest increase in 2022, the year after the state Legislature implemented what was the nation’s strongest ban on abortion, according to new report from the University of Houston’s Institute for Research on Women, Gender & Sexuality.

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[–] lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world 102 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

While it is obvious that it would happen, the demographics skew things a bit, since by far the increase was among Hispanic women, while white and black women still showed a decline. I say skewed because Texas has the 2nd or third highest per capita population of Hispanics, so to get a more accurate data point, you would want to know how the teen birth rate of hispanic women from other states was instead of the total of any race.

While it's a certainty that Texas laws have caused more unwanted teen births, it would be nice to have more accurate data points.

[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you think the abortion law might not have anything to do with the change in birth rate among Hispanic teens? I guess I’m not sure why breaking this out into racial demographics is adding anything to our understanding of the trend.

Examining why hispanic girls seem to be disproportionately affected by the law could be an interesting followon study.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 85 points 2 years ago (5 children)

As intended, the point is to get white people to breed... I'm sadly not joking

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

While they would be delighted if that were to happen, in this case, it is poor people they want to breed no matter what color they are. They want all those impoverished babies born so they can:

  • Under-educate them
  • Force them into crappy jobs that will keep them poor while enriching their overlords
  • Convince them that the progressives who want to help them and improve their lives are really their enemies
  • Deceive them into voting for the very tyrants who are oppressing them

They don't really care what color skin the meat they feed into their machine is wearing.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Nah, they want them to all be black, but white is acceptable.

More blacks mean more people they can throw in jails to use as slave labor for their corporate overlords.

They want all the black people they can get.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm a native Texan and I've got to disabuse you of this notion. There's definitely an effort to monetize the state's bigoted legislature. But the end goal of these policies isn't a large black prison force any more than the work camps in Dachau were about having a large Gypsy/Jewish/Communist labor force.

The goal is to work these prisoners to death until there's nobody left to arrest.

We continue to have a rich legacy of forced sterilization nationally, particularly in state prisons.

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[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If so, they are once again working against their own goals. I just googled and found this: https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/state-indicator/abortions-by-race/

Now that doesn't work too well on my phone, but all the states that aren't whitebread states, the abortion rate is higher among black people, which means an abortion ban is going to have black folks having less abortions than white folks. And that's before you factor in that white folks are more likely to be able to travel to obtain abortions.

I don't know whether you're right or not. It wouldn't surprise me, but I do feel like anyone smart enough to stack these dominos is smart enough to see where they'll fall, but this would be far from the first time the right has shocked me with their intellectual failures.

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[–] Zess@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And because conservatives think they'll become obedient housewives instead of feminists.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If thats the intention its skyrocketing the latino birth rates

[–] 52fighters@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 years ago

Give it a generation and Hispanics will be considered white. It'll happen just as it happened to the Irish and Italians and Eastern Europeans.

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[–] conti473@thelemmy.club 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No no no, it's all religion, ooh say can't you see?

[–] jas0n@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Sounds like you're joking, but your correct as well. After all, indoctrination is how religion grows. Why do you think religions are anti-abortion and anti-contraception? There may have been a time when religion was useful, but has long since passed. We need to stop giving religion a voice.

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[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 68 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

In another decade or so there will be articles about how Texas lacks educated workers and companies can't entice enough educated people to fill jobs. And every politician will scratch their hate filled little heads trying to figure out why. Many will come to some horribly moronic conclusion that there isn't enough Jesus or to much social media but none will look back at this and get a clue.

[–] Masterblaster@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago

you just have to get far enough away to not get burned while you watch the crash.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Texans don't need migrants! They are fucking a whole new working class! Their cousins son who is also your brother and father will be a common relationship term...cousbrodad!

Who's that? Oh that's my Cousbrodad! I don't know my mom, the country of Texas grew me in a concentration camp.... I sweep Main from Eleventh to Mr.Luther King parkway. That's my job!

God damn, just rekt a whole ass state 😭

[–] metallic_substance@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

More future minimum wage workers for the upper class to exploit! Mission accomplished 🇺🇲

[–] MalachaiConstant@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Not to mention all that sweet, sweet prison labor!

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 35 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Kids having kids is EXACTLY what Jesus would have wanted!

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[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Isn't that exactly what they wanted? This is a success story for them and a reason to press on.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yup. More broke mothers, leading to more broke children to throw into the military/prison systems, for the mega rich to exploit via wars and legalized slavery. Capitalism is a blood-god, and it always requires more blood.

[–] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 33 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Y'all focusing on them hoping to pump out "poor, uneducated wage slaves" or whatever, but there's a much bigger reason why conservatives want those children to be born.

With foster care conditions being so absolutely abhorrent in its current state, it's very easy for a child to get "lost in the system". Add in the trauma of being a child in that situation, and it is a recipe for disaster. These adults.. want those vulnerable kids.

The party who insist they are doing what they do to """protect the children""".

There's a business in that. And there are folks who want those unwanted children.

[–] TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That is because REPUBLICANS FUCK KIDS AND THEY FUCK THEM A LOT

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[–] Duranie@literature.cafe 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Today's neglected and unwanted children are tomorrow's prisoners? 🤔

[–] Aylex@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Prisoners, soldiers... The options are endless!

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[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Sorry, I'm pro-choice and left leaning but I think this is a little far fetched.

Sure ok there are folks who want unwanted children but they're an infinitesimal minority. I don't think highly of GOP voters but they're not quite that diabolical.

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not talking about the voters. I'm talking about the politicians and people behind the scenes at the top who help to make these policies.

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[–] PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

And let me guess - they also declined the federal Medicaid expansion and probably don’t have great social services to start with, right?

[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Hey Texas, I know that you're ~~anti-abortion~~ pro-life and all but if you don't want your state's teens getting pregnant you should provide adequate birth control measures...for free! Or would that displease Sky Daddy?

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 25 points 2 years ago

The fact that they didn't do that is undeniable proof that it was always about controlling women.

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[–] Drusas@kbin.social 25 points 2 years ago

But it's okay because they're creating more little wage slaves just like supply side Jesus intended.

[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

More legal slaves for the moneyed and political class!

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

well hopefully we start see some dna tests resulting in criminal charges.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago
[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Conservatives are just going to tell them personal responsibilities not to be horny and all that.

[–] Rubanski@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago
[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 years ago

More workers! Definitely need to keep that minimum wage low!

[–] Kase@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago
[–] tfowinder@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

https://www.prb.org/resources/new-study-claims-abortion-is-behind-decrease-in-crime/

Excat opposite of this,

(January 2000) Abortion is a divisive and emotional issue. Add racial overtones and the implication that public officials do not deserve all the credit for reductions in crime during the 1990s, and combustion is inevitable. Informed debate is not. Stanford Law School professor John J. Donohue III and University of Chicago economist Steven D. Levitt ignited a debate last August when they released a study on the relationship between abortion and crime. Their findings suggest that legal abortions have prevented the births of many would-be criminals. The absence of these people, according to their research, is behind at least half of the dramatic drop in crime rates seen between 1991 and 1997.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Remember how the cons were gaslighting about how no rights are really going to be taken away? They were just Deeply Concerned (TM) about how Roe had created rights, not that women actually had those rights.

Because they had so many issues with Roe because of "judicial activism" and for no other reason.

Yeah....

[–] soyboy77@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

Mind. Blown.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm shocked :0 Who could have seen this coming

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

In related news: Duh.

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