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[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 43 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Force used to oppress, and force used to oppose and defend against those who use force to oppress, are not the same and it truly enrages me that they are treated as even in the same category or a somehow comparable threat.

It's subtle shit like this that fuels the "don't fight hate with hate" nonsense in liberals and centrists (don't be fooled by the superficial progressive takes, the Guardian is as much a part of the propaganda machine as the S*n and the Daily Hail, they just cater to different demographics) that is, in part of course, keeping us from rising up against the few that oppress us.

Don't buy in to it.

[–] TheHighRoad@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm with you. Intolerance of intolerance is a different beast and is absolutely necessary to maintain freedom and liberty. When are people going to figure out that even the smallest capitulation to fascism is an automatic loss?

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I think we all saw this was the case on January 6, 2021.

[–] d4rknusw1ld@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Please. I kind of wish they’d just do the thing already so we can put this shit to rest once and for all.

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, usually when these situations escalate to violence it gets settled once and for all, and doesn’t deepen divisions

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

It worked in 1860 .... oh wait

[–] Pepperette@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's exactly how every Canadian feels about the US every election cycle.

[–] d4rknusw1ld@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Trump indictment for January 6th likely dropping today. I can’t wait.

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Really? Because it's more likely to take the form of terrorist attacks than anything else. Timothy McVeigh and the Unabomber are heroes to some.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago

Timothy McVeigh and the Unabomber are heroes to some.

Cross posting from another thread because it's in my clipboard history, making this easy:

There's a lot of stellar reporting on this stuff. There was a limited-series podcast about the evolution of white supremacy in the US that did an excellent job of explaining and illustrating the shifts called Long Shadow trailer. It starts with Waco and Ruby Ridge and really helped me better understand how and why we're seeing what's happening today. (Scroll down; the white supremacist eps were preceded by a season about 9/11, which I haven't listened to).

The gig-economy metaphor makes more sense with the perspective that they understand that the KKK is unpopular and they rely on small cells and individuals for acts of terror and violence. Then the leaders of the movement can "condemn" the violence, which was what they always wanted and knew their rhetoric would bring.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Well... we're fucked, aren't we?

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