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[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 48 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Tragedy of the Commons mfers when you point out that the only reason their imaginary pasture is overused and devalued is that it's being used to feed private property.

For more info, look up Dr. Li Gima's paper on the subject

[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Uugghh, that hack? A falicy to not properly distinguish between common properties and open access.

I find Professor Sugondese to be much more reliable source

[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Puhlease... Dr C.D.'s paper dunked on Sugondese's lack of basic understanding on the nature of the commons

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In all seriousness, Elinor Ostrom won the Economics “Nobel” for pretty definitively refuting the Tragedy of the Commons: https://evonomics.com/the-only-woman-to-win-the-nobel-prize-economics-debunked/

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I spent a considerable amount of time trying to find out what's the deez nuts joke was supposed to be with that name

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago

The fact that virtually all of the developed world is operating under various systems of social democracy while not sliding into authoritarian communism is the most dramatic refutation of Serfdom that could exist.

I read it. It’s cartoonishly simple - and I can’t emphasize that characterization enough. It’s still trotted out as a “proof” that Medicare will inevitably lead the US to having a Stalinist dictator.

[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Tragedy of the commons solutions:

  • Privatize shit, with a bunch of consequences
  • Let the state own everything, with a bunch of consequences
  • Elinor Ostrom getting the swedish national banks prize in alfred nobels memory for finding all kinds of solutions to the problem all over the world

But noooo, trust the internet weirdos that thinks it only means "privatize good"

[–] chumbalumber@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I want to defend tragedy of the commons. The point is that if you have a resource that is depleted by use but that gives advantage to the individual user, then people are incentivised to use it.

However, the point we should take from it is the exact opposite of 'communism bad' -- it's that we need governance and regulation to prevent overuse of finite resources.