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I've used a US-QWERTY keyboard layout my entire life. I've seen other layouts that do things like reduce the size of the enter/backspace keys, move the pipe operator (|) and can't wrap my head around how I would code on those.

What are your experiences? Are there any layouts that you prefer for coding over US English? Are there any symbols that you have a hard time reaching ($ for example)?

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[–] KindaABigDyl@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

I can't even wrap my mind around people who use 60% keyboards and use a bunch of extra function keys let alone anything more drastic

[–] noughtnaut@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yes, I've been on Norwegian Dvorak since 2002 or so.

Biggest problem I've had is with keyboards and OS'es (cough 🍎) that don't support the Insert key, because (a) I cut my teeth on the DOS editor and (b) XCV are all over the place on this layout.

I will always use a proper full size keyboard if at all possible. Those 60% and whatnot are not for me (it's bad enough when they move the arrow keys).

Oh, and the languages insisting on ${} characters are a pain on any non US layout.

[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Switch to Colemak and that XCV goodness is right where it needs to be.

Never had a nicer typing experience, thanks to DreymaR introducing me to DHm-angle-wide-mod. Colemak FTW!

🐑

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

ANSI all the way. I get irrationally angry about any other layout 😡

[–] dotslashme 1 points 2 years ago

My os is running with a slightly modified us qwerty, which then is mapped through keyboard firmware to a modified us dvorak.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 points 2 years ago

I'm using the Czech keyboard, I've put in the time to learn where the various symbols are because I didn't really want to switch constantly between CZ and US like most programmers do. When I write something like těžiště I prefer it not to look like t26i3t2, then delete it, switch keyboards and write it again.

Regarding the various types (like long/short enter, pipe symbol position etc.) I don't have a particular preference, when I switch laptops, I make mistakes for a while, then get used to it

[–] Aatube@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I use the International keyboard because it allows me to type a lot of symbols, but US also serves me fine

Edit: to program, I use the US layout.

[–] umbraroze@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm using Finnish keyboard layout (same as Swedish basically).

I like how AltGr+7/8/9/0 gives me { [ ] }, it's a very nice grouping. The key next to Z is < > and you get | with AltGr, which is very handy.

Only thing that's mildy annoying from programming viewpoint is that for tilde and backtick, the keys do diacritics - you need to press the diacritic key and space. Backtick is especially fun, because it's shift+acute, space. Meanwhile, the key next to 1 does § ½, which aren't that handy most of the time. I often just stick backtick on that key if I'm particularly assed to customise keyboard keyouts. Similarly, shift+4 is ¤, which is another not a particularly useful character (but I don't mind that, because £ $ € all need to be produced with AltGr, which is at least consistent).

[–] Blaberus_sp@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I'm using a Dygma Raise split keyboard with Dvorak as my main layer. The thumb clusters are great for putting difficult to reach keys in more comfortable positions. Second layer has NumPad, Directionals and Functions. Still trying to decide how to make the best use of my other layers.

[–] dukatos@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I use US layout for programming because it is way better than SR latin. For documents and mails, I use both variants - latin and cyrillic.

[–] pkill@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

I'm using a sligntly modified Niro layou (in a way that makes it more ergonomic with vim). Though I might need to adjust it since lately I began feeling disproportionate strain on my right ring finger.

[–] simonced@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

Using the JIS layout. One thing I miss from ANSI is the single and double quotes on my right pinky.(on the same key) Other than that, JIS is a nice layout to do programing with.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago

I’m having to use US keyboard layout in Oz and not enjoying the half-height Return key very much.

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