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Korea is surprisingly dystopian and no other country is exactly like that tbh.
The internet (and many other areas) are completely captured by monopolies that control everything. There are so many inhumane, draconian laws too. This all contrasts with advance tech and pop production so starkly it kinda breaks people's brains.
Behold the corporate state.
Which Korea are we talking about here?
South Korea or Best Korea?
You are now a mod of c/Pyongyang
You are joking, but it took me about 15% of the article to figure out definitively he was talking about ROK not DPRK.
You are joking
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Ban comes in, ban goes out, can’t explain that!
From the article:
He also expressed regret, saying, "It is the result of Korea maximizing the bad points of Confucian culture and the shortcomings of capitalism."
I don't really understand what that means.
So to be safe, you are now banned from /c/Pyongyang
I like this whole schtick you have going 😁
When people say “Korea”, they probably mean the south one (unless they’re a fan of Kim Jong Un).
You are now banned from /c/Pyongyang
Oh no I’m so sad
Don't make me fire rockets into the sea to put you in your place...
Nicholas Plot, an American StarCraft professional commentator who has lived in Korea for 15 years, said, "One of the things that surprised me when I first came here was work ethics. They almost collapsed from overwork but didn't say anything. In an apartment in suburban Seoul, 15 to 16 game players trained in an environment similar to a PC room, using bunk beds, he said. "When there is a small ecosystem where everyone pushes each other to get better and better, Koreans completely dominate (the environment). At the same time, I had no choice but to think about the psychological slump it created," he said.
This is reasonably accurate. Korea is very heavy on the grind. If you ever want to learn work ethics and how to have fun with the short amount of free time you get, this is the place.
Source: 대한민국에서 살고 있어
It doesn't sound like the kind of work ethic I want to learn. That's basically voluntary slavery.
Individualism is great.
I agree with the first part, but I’m confused by “Individualism is great”. Not sure what individualism has to do with it.
Is this supposed to contrast with the US, a country where people work some of the longest hours in the developed world? I think the whole “the West is free and individualistic and Asians are conformist robots” thing is a myth.
Individualism is kinda the opposite of confucianism. Confucianism teaches that an individual is worth nothing and they must give all to family and state. I don't agree with that. I deeply believe in thriving through self-exploration, free from peer pressure and especially religious dogma.
I wasn't directly thinking about work ethic there, I just really hate the basic principles of Confucianism. I feel it's restricting people. In the western world we have the same things, but they come from religions and conservatism instead (see the hate against trans people these days in the US). They're also not as strongly embedded into society as they are in Confucian countries as far as I can tell. We value individualism a lot more, especially on the leftish/progressive side.
The reason I mentioned it is because Confucianism is often idolised in the Western world ("look there in China / Korea they still care about each other!") but it's also a terrible straightjacket for people not able or willing to conform to whatever stuff their society expects. Because people that impose rules upon themselves tend to want to impose those rules upon others even those that don't share their belief.
I don't mind others having belief systems but let me have none. And that's really the part where things tend to not work out.
You're thinking of collectivism, the actual opposite of individualism. Confucianism isn't really related and is about finding meaning and cultivating the self, it's a form of civil religion.
In fact, Confucianism is about self-cultivation and actualization, though in the context of society.
Source: 대한민국에서 살고 있어
No, YOUR mother is a craven harlot!
The video title is "Depressed" not "Depressing."
He based that on the suicide rate. It's hard to have a metric for happiness/depression, but that's a credible one.
The article took liberties with the message.
He spoke directly with many people across South Korea. Interview style and not coming at it with a load of certanties.
By the second sentence he said, "South Korea."
I don't know why so many people here have to imagine a slight and then react against it.
But Korea has their superior fried chicken and the corn dogs with potatoes on the outside. It can't possibly be bad.
Seems very similar to Japan except South Korea has been gaining popularity in the West more recently.
AFAIK Japan is also pretty bad but not as much as Korea.
Where is Korea worse?
Korea and Japan are in the same general situation, but in Korea it's taken to the extreme. So suicide rates, average working hours, etc etc.
Lowest birth rate in the whole world, too. 0.84 births per woman.
For the Koreans I met who moved to Japan, the work culture can be less bad, as can be working at certain companies despite where they graduated from. My sample size is small, though, and I am neither Japanese nor Korean.
These countries have similarities, but this seems more like simplistic stereotypes and generalizations.
South Korea's suicide rate is almost double that of Japan's. Japan has a lower suicide rate than the US, and similar to European countries like Sweden.
South Koreans work some of the longest hours of any rich country. They're closer to India and Mexico than Europe. The Japanese work fewer hours than the US. Yes, Japanese people work too much, but I think Americans don't realize that they work too much too.