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Four-times-indicted former president Donald Trump has been successfully selling white Christian nostalgia, racism and xenophobia to his base. However, the Public Religion Research Institute’s massive poll of 6,616 participants suggests that what works with his base might pose an insurmountable problem with Gen Z teens and Gen Z adults (who are younger than 25).

Demographically, this cohort of voters bears little resemblance to Trump’s older, whiter, more religious followers. “In addition to being the most racially and ethnically diverse generation in our nation’s history, Gen Z adults also identify as LGBTQ at much higher rates than older Americans,” the PRRI poll found. “Like millennials, Gen Zers are also less likely than older generations to affiliate with an established religion.”

Those characteristics suggest Gen Z will favor a progressive message that incorporates diversity and opposes government imposition of religious views. Indeed, “Gen Z adults (21%) are less likely than all generational groups except millennials (21%) to identify as Republican.” Though 36 percent of Gen Z adults identify as Democrats, their teenage counterparts are more likely to be independents (51 percent) than older generations.

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[–] Municipal0379@lemmy.world 149 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I want this to be true with every being of my body. BUT….they’ve been saying this for years about each generation.

[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 70 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Same. I’m nearly 40, and I’ve been hearing this since before I could vote, and yet the GOP hasn’t been voted out of existence. If it were up to me they’d be purged from every position of power nationwide.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 39 points 2 years ago (3 children)

There were/are a lot of olds. They have dominated politics for a long time and have also not died due to being the first people to take advantage of modern medicine.

[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

first people to take advantage of modern medicine

I never considered that, and it’s a damn tragedy. We gave the most short-sighted generation the longest lifespan in human history 🤦‍♂️

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, unfortunately they're also the leaded gas generation.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

I mis led. Made pant tast good. I stop eeting pant win led got took a way.

Car slow down to. Never drank gas but huf it alot win I was a teenajer. Dint hurt me and I vote so thare.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

There were/are a lot of olds. They have dominated politics for a long time and have also not died

I keep thinking Covid was a missed opportunity.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

And instead what we got is the Democrat party moving to the right. Because as it turns out, procorporate trash would rather lose to fascists than compromise with leftists.

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[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Weren't 2020 and 2022 record years for youth voter turnout?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Shhh. Democrats can't keep ignoring issues important to young people if they admit young people vote.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They were record years for voter turnout in general. So youth turnout, though improved from previous years, was still less than turnout of older generations.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can't imagine why that would be. Boomers elected the whitest, oldest, boomerest candidate running in the 2020 primaries. Don't these young people know a compromise when they see it?? /s

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

No, young voters were the strongest supporters of the oldest white guy in the 2020 Democratic primary. He came in second.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Young people are generally far less likely to vote, so which way they vote is somewhat irrelevant.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (7 children)

But Gen Z did have a higher turnout in 2022 than prior generations.

https://circle.tufts.edu/latest-research/gen-z-voted-higher-rate-2022-previous-generations-their-first-midterm-election

So it be smart to go listen to try and not only keep them at the table, to offer more chairs too.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

That's the avalanche starting right there.

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[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 78 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Gen Z needs to get out and vote and get their friends to do the same like their future depends on it, because it does.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

If your state allows it, sign up for mail in voting. Your ballot is mailed to you, and you have a month to fill it out, and drop it in a mailbox. We have it in CA, and I never miss a special election, primary, or general election.

https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/table-18-states-with-all-mail-elections

There are 18 states that allow general mail in voting

Many states allow college students to do absentee mail in voting.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 68 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Pohl@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago

It’s really an incredible data point. I am the king of the youth vote skeptics but, 2022 was a great year for young voters. I am cautiously optimistic that a generation of regular voters is coming of age. Most of what is wrong with our democracy can be helped greatly by broader engagement and participation. So much of the bullshit only works because nobody can be bothered to show up to vote for any office other than the president.

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

almost like they don't want everything going to shit, and finally realized that twiddling thumbs won't get rid of these dumbasses.

[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm still voting. They said if my generation got out to vote it would change everything. I don't see why that's different today, not that many of us are gone, and attrition hasn't sent too many to the right, I strongly believe my generations politik power is as strong as it ever was,, and I'm firmly aligned with Gen z. They need our support as much as we need theirs. Don't get complacent thinking the next generation will solve the problems.

[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Of course you have to vote. It doesn't matter how big of a demographic shift there is, if you don't vote it won't be represented.

[–] Argonne@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

Not if they keep getting all their news from TikTok

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (4 children)

https://www.businessinsider.com/gen-z-gender-gap-young-men-women-dont-agree-politics-2024-1?op=1

But another article shows the males in the generation becoming more conservative. Heck knows it's the male fantasy of control driving the MAGA movement. Gotta keep the women, illegals, liberals, and the rest of the world under their control.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Buddy...

After speaking with more than 20 Gen Zers...

Speaking with 21 people does not make a representative sample.

And something is off at the Harvard youth poll the article is relying on for the whole, "men are becoming more conservative claim". When you pull their data (It's the button labeled crosstabs) for previous years they've labeled three race categories as "Hispanic". White and Black labels are MIA so we can probably assume they're the mislabeled. But that's kind of weird to have happen. The tweet they actually link to is by the poll supervisor but he doesn't link back to his own poll. Probably because there's no category in the results for "White Male". There's White and there's Male, but they don't give that intersection in their results for party affiliation.

Polling usually isn't this hard to track down and figure out. The best we can say with the publicly available data from that poll is that in the last few years 6 percent more young men identify as Republican. White respondents only rose by 1 percent. It's important to note that's not an out of character swing. It could easily come from frustrated libertarians moving to the GOP. Especially since the Democrats lost 7 points and Independents remained steady at 38-40 %. Without more information it's all tea leaves. (and going I doesn't mean becoming more conservative, there's a lot of disaffected progressives.)

One thing their 2023 takeaways was very clear about though is that among likely Gen Z voters Biden has a double digit lead. Which would mean the article we're here commenting on is accurate. As you can absolutely be a Republican and not vote for the MAGA man.

Overall this is the second piece I've seen from a conservative outlet trying to paint a Gen Z gender gap with men becoming more conservative. Broader polling absolutely does not support this. It may support it in the future, but Gallup's 2023 May poll, and PRRI's most recent polling (Obviously as we're talking about it here) show a continuing trend of progressive leanings in Gen Z across all demographics.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Yeah that % gap left a lot of room for independents, and I'm worried they continue to lean right amongst youth and we're underestimating kids on tiktok doing their own research on vaccines, and why "the Dems are as bad as the GOP"

[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Hey there's some good news there, though:

Today, female Gen Zers are more likely than their male counterparts to vote, care more about political issues, and participate in social movements and protests.

This actually, from my anecdotal evidence from my parents, matches the '60's. A lot of women protesting, a lot of men complaining about women protesting.

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[–] Beefcyclone@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

*anyone with functioning brain cells might be the MAGA movement’s undoing

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

This is an evergreen topic. "The Emerging Democratic Majority" came out in 2002.

With Hispanic people being the fastest growing demographic in the US, and the percentage of white people shrinking, how could the party with heavy majorities in every minority group ever lose again? With such a heavy majority of the youth vote against George W Bush, how could Republicans ever win again once those people come of age?

The answer is, parties and platforms change. Agreed, George W Bush couldn't get elected in the modern America. Look what happened to Jeb. But the modern Republican Party has shifted more working-class populist and some of that growing share of Hispanic vote has shifted towards them.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

That’s an ambitious claim.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


“In addition to being the most racially and ethnically diverse generation in our nation’s history, Gen Z adults also identify as LGBTQ at much higher rates than older Americans,” the PRRI poll found.

All this suggests younger voters are eager to put use their time and money in furtherance of their values — on- and off-line: “Gen Z adults are notably more likely than older generations to have volunteered for a group or cause (30% vs. 24% or less) or attended a public rally or demonstration in person (15% vs. 8% or less).”

None of this is good news for a Republican Party whose base tries to eradicate the division between church and state, wants to ban abortion, targets LGBTQ youths, dismisses climate change as a hoax and opposes race-based affirmative and student loan forgiveness.

In that regard, sending Kamala Harris, the first Black and first female vice president, to college campuses to talk about guns, abortion, the environment and other issues looks like a smart move.

(Harris’s message that voters’ “freedom” is at stake provides a helpful contrast to a party wanting to impose its religious views on the rest of us.)

If younger voters come to see 2024 as a battle for an inclusive and free America, not merely another partisan election, perhaps they will turn out in great enough numbers to defeat the MAGA threat.


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