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[–] computergeek125@lemmy.world 90 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No I can't say I'm excited for an OS that will undoubtedly contain first-party spyware

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 years ago

This, exactly this

I want a third option but this ain't it

[–] Fake4000@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wouldn't never touch a Huawei phone.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So... you would always touch it?

[–] bratosch@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wouldn't never not touch it

[–] b000urns@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't not disagree with your not disagreement.

[–] johsny@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I'll take Whoopi Goldberg to block.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why...? It's obviously a tool to spy on their citizens even more effectively and very possibly to spy on western citizens as well.

I'm all for alternatives to Android and iOS, but I'd rather be spied on by private companies than a country that pretty much plans to take over Asia and then the rest of the world in the coming decades (well, in my wet dreams SailfishOS matures as a real alternative and I don't have to choose Android at all).

[–] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago

No thanks. I prefer my government mass surveillance and backdoors in the binary blob firmware layer. Separation of concerns and all that.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 19 points 2 years ago

Super fast Chinese spyware

[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] King@lemy.lol -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

They release their code the same way that android do.

[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There is some open core, but system you recieve in the end device is going to be totally locked and without source code to see. The only component with available source will be Linux kernel, because of it's user-friendly copyleft licence, but it is so much modified even on Android it's basically useless.

[–] King@lemy.lol -1 points 2 years ago

The os is not based on linux.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So they release the bare minimum and shove every feature in proprietary Play Service blobs?

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

They don't even do that.

Android is fundamentally FOSS, but in reality Google has an additional proprietary layer over the top (that unfortunately is growing)

HarmonyOS is fundamentally proprietary, but a few components are GPL licence so they've done the bare minimum in making that open to satisfy the law. And even those parts are being stripped out over time.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

No. HarmonyOS is closed source.

[–] silencioso@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

At least now you can choose if you prefer to be spied by the US government or the Chinese government :D

[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There's also Red ~~Fash~~ Star OS if that's your thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Star_OS

[–] wikibot@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Here's the summary for the wikipedia article you mentioned in your comment:

Red Star OS (Korean: 붉은별; MR: Pulgŭnbyŏl) is a North Korean Linux distribution, with development first starting in 1998 at the Korea Computer Center (KCC). Prior to its release, computers in North Korea typically used Red Hat Linux, and later switched to modified versions of Microsoft Windows with North Korean language packs installed. Version 3. 0 was released in the summer of 2013, but as of 2014, version 1. 0 continues to be more widely used.

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[–] Aatube@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] plague_sapiens@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Not it's Red Star OS!!!!! Looks like you don't like communist leadership! To the gulag with him!

[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago
[–] NotMelon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

No, take him to naked island

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago
[–] GigglyBobble@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Oh man. By that headline I got my hopes up that Logitech came to their senses and renewed the Harmony Hub or even the glorious Harmony One.

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago
[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well, if it creams Linux... And I'd really like to see a Chinese giant break.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Break with the Linux ecosystem? No it doesn't lol

HarmonyOS is a multi-kernel system. It uses the Linux kernel and a modified LiteOS kernel. Unless they mean to eventually move past that, but idk, this article is trash and doesn't say much, it just sucks Huawei's dick.

Nobody should care about some dodgy proprietary OS with CCP backing.