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[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Actually, there are multiple local phone manufacturers in the DPRK, including Arirang, Jindallae, and Phurun Hanal. They've all produced several original designs, and several phones have even been manufactured domestically. There's also a decently substantial clone market, which sells clones of smartphones popular in the west. A clone Samsung Note 8 and a clone of one of the iPhones somewhere in the 6-8 generation with virtually identical design come to mind as devices I've seen commonly in the hands of common people in and outside Pyongyang.

Devices can connect to the national intranet network called Kwangmyong via wifi or 3g data. There is in fact free public wifi in Pyongyang, with the SSID name "Mirae" or "future" and there's a streaming service that lets you watch live tv, domestically produced films, read newspapers, and even watch pirated foreign films.

Some access to the internet can be achieved, but the majority of the network's users are connecting via dial-up or their very heavily used 3g network which hasn't been upgraded substantially since the early 2000s due to sanctions. While there are hopes of moving the whole country to fiber, and there are terrestrial interconnects to the greater internet via China and Russia already built and in use. The intranet does have access to some external internet content, but the low power of most computers and low speed of the network means that modern websites are far too heavy to load, so services like reading world news or doing internet searches are achieved by domestic systems that scrape the web and then translate it into plain text and simple html only.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Unironically this is a reason why I came around to appreciate the way marxists.org is designed. That site will load on a tomagotchi, and without pop ups or any other modern web nonsense

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

Yeah, websites that run on nothing are the best. The internet making everything be a rat race of more and more computing power needing to be thrown at rendering worse and less functional websites is awful

[–] blakeus12@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

they probably just made that up to convince us enlightened redditors that it's not ebil like 1984. thankfully, it's not working. try your evil stalinist magic somewhere else.

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wanna go there now. I mean, I already did, so long as I can bring my banjo.

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

Actually posted more about TV stuff there, here ya go

[–] frogbellyratbone_@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] blakeus12@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

this is literally kremlin proper ganda!

[–] jaeme@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Going_NoPhone

Going nophone is a real thing in libre spaces. Of course I own a Google Pixel loaded with GrapheneOS so I'm redfash tankie kitty-cri-screm

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

With capitalism, you too can go NoPhone NoPhone

[–] blakeus12@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

no phone? literally impossible. so it doesn't count

[–] YearOfTheCommieDesktop@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

honestly it's getting harder every year but I'm closer to doing it anyway every year too lmao

I've come to resent the idea that I should always be available for anyone to reach me and that not replying promptly is some sort of slap in the face and totally unacceptable

rn I'm running a pinephone pro, and I'm basically down to phone calls (which I rarely get or answer) emails and signal messages, and I now set my phone down and don't look at it for hours at a a time way more than I used to, so even those are less prompt. sms to my personal number go via email so theres a lag to it and I'm kinda treating that as a feature not a bug. I'm comfortable getting around with no phone or dead phone way more than I used to be, as long as I have my transit pass and a watch I feel fairly secure

[–] xavier_berthiaume@jlai.lu 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah but we have redstar Linux, so checkmate capitalism

[–] blakeus12@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

angery

no no no no no no no no YOU'RE WRONG WRONG WRONG

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] blakeus12@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

china is pretty much capitalist, so yeah. checkmate tankees, !!!!!

[–] jaeme@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yeah its a state capitalist, the US is crony capitalist and russia is homophobic capitalist. Im very left indeed but not a commie we just need to enter good capitalism where everyone is equal.

[–] blakeus12@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

thank you. finally someone said it