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[–] the_q@lemmy.world 143 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Is this Matt Gaetz the pedophile?

[–] norbert@kbin.social 89 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yep, rapist and sex trafficker Matt Gaetz.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] TriPolarBearz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

This got me thinking:

Would Epstein have been considered a kiddie sommelier?

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 14 points 2 years ago

One of them, certainly

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Yes that Matt.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Fortunately, Gaetz is rarely correct about anything.

Recap on what has occurred recently in consensual reality due to the #GOP rejecting women:

Nationwide, Democrats are beating polls by 9+ points at the ballot box since Roe v. Wade was overturned.

GOP has lost 13 of their last 15 special elections, even in "red" states.

State GOP groups are going bankrupt in an election year.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The unfortunate truth is, all that doesn't matter if the Electoral College utterly fails at its ONE job yet again and picks the loser. Republicans will userp power wether we want them to or not if that happens. They need to be treated as the enemies of the state they are, or else we're fucked.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

all that doesn't matter if the Electoral College ~~utterly fails~~ succeeds at its ONE job yet again and picks the loser.

FTFY

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

They're supposed to protect from terrible leaders, not simply to pick the loser. Electing Trump was the perfect demonstration of how the entire concept is utterly and completely flawed.

He should've been able to win the popular vote and still should have been ignored by the Electoral College. Instead, the exact opposite happened. They're worse than useless.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The electoral college exists to subvert the popular vote whenever the choice of the rural minority is behind. It would have no reason to exist otherwise. It has no duty to "ignore" any outcome and nothing to do with the quality of leadership besides their ability to campaign to low density populations.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yea, it's effectively a tool of disenfranchisement, but the point is it was pitched as a safety mechanism from the "dumb plebs", yet it has done the exact opposite.

It wasn't the plebs that put Trump in office. The point I'm making is it literally has zero upsides.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The point I'm making is it literally has zero upsides.

Then we're literally making the same point. There is no reason to argue here.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We're making the same point, but you're using terrible logic to do so.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's funny, I thought the same thing about you. I just didn't feel the need to shit on you for it.

Is this the argument you wanted? Are we supposed to be getting something out of this?

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You're making a claim from an offensive perspective. Anyone who doesn't ALREADY agree with your premise is just going to fight you on calling the idea a plan of disenfranchisement.

You have to CONVINCE someone you're right, not just declare it so... You use bad arguments for people who do not already agree with you. Now grow the fuck up and take criticism like an adult.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Hold on. You understand that adding FTFY to a comment is not a criticism of said comment? I was just adding to your commentary and you somehow took issue with that.

I genuinely don't even know what we're arguing about, what I said that was so offensive, or why you're so heated over it. I'm not trying to convince you of anything or make an argument, in fact we seem to already agree with each other. The electoral college was sold as something that it never actually was in practice. All I basically said is we might as well call it for what it effectively is, and stop pretending it was ever meant to be something it has never actually been. If you still manage to have an issue with that then I honestly really don't care to sit here and argue about the semantics of it and be constantly insulted along the way. Also, I didn't even say the disenfranchisement part, you did.

I really don't think you have any room here to tell me to act like an adult. I didn't even criticize you and you just started hurling personal attacks at me, insisting I defend something I didn't even come here to do. That's not "criticism" lol, and it surely isn't acting like an "adult", whatever the fuck that means 😂 I was literally just making a joke and you decided to turn it into a debate. A one-sided one, because like I've said in 3 successive comments now, I do not know what your problem is.

Anyways, hope your day gets better because I really don't think that whatever you're upset about has anything to do with me.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Michigan GOP is out of cash. Michigan is very much a purple/battleground state.

I really hope this is the death knell of the GOP. At this point, it needs to die. If our idiotic fucking political system was less focused on maintaining the two-party dynamic, that’d be great too, but at this point I’m just gonna call it a win if we can stop the Nazis from getting into office.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yah I thought we were ready for a Bernie Sanders but turns out what we actually need at the moment is a call to the fire department to put out the dumpster fire

Frankly, I very much want to watch the Republican Party burn.

[–] macattack@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] crashoverride@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Diversity, equity, and inclusion. It's an overall banner for corporate initiatives to avoid being as racist and sexist etc as they have previously been.

This of course seen as a horrifying affront to a bunch of white men who formerly benefitted from the racism and sexism.

You can guess which party is on which side of the debate.

[–] mikezeman@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Diversity, equity, and inclusion

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There's also a Julio and a Jamal ready for him in prison.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because those are the names of "ethnic people." Am I right?

[–] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

That's how you know he's not racist

[–] Afx@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

Just look at that cunts face.... How can anyone vote for that.

[–] Binthinkin@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

The amount of propaganda that right-trash spews into S Florida is nuts. And those folks are pretty helpless against it as they cannibalize their own fairly regularly.

[–] Birdie@thelemmy.club 7 points 2 years ago

This is the one circumstance in which I'd be proud to be called a Karen.

[–] twistypencil@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I like how he thinks he knows women

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

He knows teenage girls. That's almost knowing women.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

"There's a sucker born every minute."

- David Hannum (not P.T. Barnum)

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

After 2020 and 2022, I'm just waiting for this sudden change of heart from traditionally strong Democratic demographics.. Seems like copium from Gaetz.

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Copium: in 2016, Trump got 6% of black voters. In 2020, he got 8%. That's a 33% increase in just 4 years. Hispanic votes went from 28% Trump to 38%, so a similar 35% increase. With another 35% increase, he's on track to get a majority of Hispanic voters in 2024 and, I dunno, maybe 110% of black votes?

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And yet, the the net-margin of victory widened between 2016 and 2020. Which speaks to fallacies of statistics and "doubling" of percentages of tiny numbers.

In spite of traditionally losing midterms because of lack of youth turnout, a 2022 midterm during terrible economic conditions still saw Democrats victorious over what was supposed to be a Red Wave.

Fair point on the Hispanic population, but: The key question when it comes to Hispanic voters is where that rise in support is. We know, for example, that Cuban-Americans in Florida overwhelmingly skew Republican; that doesn't particularly change the outcome. We know, too, that Texas state rhetoric has made inroads with the Hispanic population there who've now opted to shut the door behind them. But again, we never expected nor need much from Texas either. So it comes down to states like Nevada to see the impact of the remaining subset of the Hispanic population which yes, will be close.