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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Yes, am agreeing that must not vote for Biden Genocide Joe. American President must be strong defender of freedoms like Trump, or like great president Putin.

Also, I am liberal sexually fluid college student who eats of many avocado toasts and demands money. Not voting Biden is shared by my many many friends of all races and economic class.

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[–] archomrade@midwest.social 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not voting for my candidate is the same as voting for my opposition, but not voting for my opposition is not the same as voting for my candidate.

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Yes, this is opportunity cost.

If you were playing tug of war with both of your arms, and one of your arms decided "not to vote"—but like, equally between you and your opponent—then, you know, your one arm just loses.

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[–] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Mf-ers out here acting allergic to periods.

[–] SolNine@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children)

I'm convinced if it wasn't the conflict in Palestine it would be some other issue that would prevent them from being able to "morally" support Biden.

Yes the conflict in Palestine is terrible, yes there are atrocities occuring, no I don't have any of the solutions.

There seem to be a subset of people that only want to see the negative in every aspect of life and this carries over to politicians/politics in general. The grass is forever more green elsewhere.

I recently asked a friend trapped in this bubble if they had seen the new Mario movie, as I attempt to avoid politics with them at this point in time, and I received the answer, "No, fuck Chris Pratt." I didn't bother asking why, but it seems that nearly ever aspect of life, except the ones they choose to conveniently ignore is reason for social outrage and some how it is "Biden's Fault," with complete disregard to what the alternative looks like.

But 3rd parties!!! Oh yes, because statistically splitting your vote between the only two groups with a chance of being elected to office is the "moral solution."

I don't ever want to hear about "harm reduction" from them again, when their "moral" decision results in women's healthcare being a literal afterthought and rights for a variety of marginalized communities being stripped away. 1,500 people a week are still dying from COVID in the U.S., but hey, let's help elect the party that wants to continue erroding any remaining social safety nets, because you know, people who get sick don't matter as much as this months zeitgeist of social outrage.

[–] squirmy_wormy@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (16 children)

That was such a a wandering comment that idk how to respond, aside from: there are plenty of reasons why Biden is not as progressive as the world is moving. The way he handled Ukraine and Russia was amazing. He just backed the "Russia" in the Israeli/Palestine version. And I personally don't like that. And if I can't voice my displeasure with an elected official, then what are we doing here?

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[–] Oliofizodos@feddit.de 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (19 children)

First of all, your system is broken. Second, what is a Palestinian American supposed to do? Biden is literally providing the ammunition to kill their families. Trump isn’t any better, but that doesn’t mean voting for another genocidal maniac is a viable option.

You asking Palestinian/Muslim Americans to simply look past that is a very self centered perspective. You say then people will be deported and thrown into camps. That’s what Palestinians were fleeing from in the first place. They fled before, they’ll do it again if they have to. They’re living in diaspora anyway. So do the millions of other Muslim Americans who are here because of Western geopolitics.

You on the other hand who try to bully them into voting for Biden because it serves your purpose, have nowhere to go. If you want progress for your country and you consider Biden only the lesser evil. Instead of bullying fellow Americans into serving your purpose, why don’t you focus on your common goal instead? Respect their opinion, support their cause.

Join their protests against Biden, pressurize him into stopping the genocide, pressurize the DNC into sending someone else as their presidential candidate.

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[–] Froyn@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Those aren't the folks that worry me. The folks that worry me are the ones that are voting Trump (as they put it) because "Biden is going to ban flavored cigarettes so no more Menthol".

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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Unless you guys are ready to have the revolution today, you need to vote Biden if you don't want Trump to win. Period.

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Democratic party when it absolutely refuses to appeal to anyone, but feels entitled to their votes anyway:

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[–] Galds@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

There is Taiwan also

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 2 years ago (8 children)

what a great comment section

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

"We did Patrick! We saved nothing."

[–] bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 years ago (14 children)

As someone who is struggling to find a reason to vote for biden for who he is, rather than vote for him for what he is not, its so disheartening to see the only valid reason to vote for him is just that he isn’t trump.

And I hate that discussion about this is always so black and white about this, and just sneering at people who have no policy reason to vote for biden, throwing shade at people who genuinely hate biden’s neoliberal platform for criticizing because trump is the opponent.

Voting for someone because they aren’t trump didn’t work in 2016, and Im worried it isn’t going to work in 2024. And I’m starting to see why people are feeling so hopeless when it comes to electoralism

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Infrastructure spending, supporting unions, taxing, prevented Israel from invading Lebanon, supporting Ukraine. Seriously there's tons of reasons. So many I think you're faking it.

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[–] Savas@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Trump isn't even pro palestinian and if he's not clarifying this, goes to show.

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