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An American scientist has sparked a trans-Atlantic tempest in a teapot by offering Britain advice on its favorite hot beverage.

Bryn Mawr College chemistry professor Michelle Francl says one of the keys to a perfect cup of tea is a pinch of salt. The tip is included in Francl’s book “Steeped: The Chemistry of Tea,” published Wednesday by the Royal Society of Chemistry.

Not since the Boston Tea Party has mixing tea with salt water roiled the Anglo-American relationship so much.

The salt suggestion drew howls of outrage from tea-lovers in Britain, where popular stereotype sees Americans as coffee-swilling boors who make tea, if at all, in the microwave.

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The U.S. Embassy in London intervened in the brewing storm with a social media post reassuring “the good people of the U.K. that the unthinkable notion of adding salt to Britain’s national drink is not official United States policy.”

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[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 50 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ok.

So make Tea in the microwave with plenty of salt.

I got it. Brits, you good? Boffins? Cheerio, pip, pip?

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Tips hat

Evnin' Govna' !

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[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Hold on, about to have my morning cup o Yorkshire, will report back

Edit - it kinda just makes it... rounder. Tea is supposed to be a little bit bitter, the salt makes the softer flavours more pronounced so it kinda stops tasting like tea

Edit 2, second cuppa. Just realised the prof probably doesn't realise that a pinch of salt is actually quite a bit, so I tried an actual tiny pinch. You know what, it actually does improve it a tiny bit, but no enough that I need more salt in my life.

Does that daft cow not realise how much tea we drink? This is diabolical

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 years ago

Thanks for your research, I was too lazy to get off the chair and try myself

[–] Rayspekt@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Now don't leave us hanging, won't you?

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You need to drink more (average modern human drinks too less). Then you need more salt.

[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago

Add salt BEFORE putting the cup in the microwave, not after. Silly Brits.

[–] chmod777@lemm.ee 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

"agitating the bag"

If you want to create a better cup of tea at least begin with tea leaves, not tea bags.

[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

I could not agree more. However, a lot of tea drinkers love their dust filled paper bags.

[–] Kraiden@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Care to elaborate? I don't see how having the leaves in a bag is inferior to having them loose

[–] marquisalex@feddit.uk 13 points 2 years ago

A decent guide to tea grades here. Even with higher end teabags, any tea dust created (e.g. if the teabag gets squashed) gets trapped inside the bag. The tea dust makes for a more bitter cup.

[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

With very few exceptions the tea used in teabags is of much lower quality than loose leaf tea. Often it´s just fannings and dust, swept from the floor.

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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Whats next britain giving advice on how to most effictivly shoot ur fellow shoolchildren?

[–] Apollonius_Cone@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Nice one. 👍

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] beardown@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It'll stop being funny when it stops being true

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[–] DharkStare@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Now I'm curious how that would taste.

[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

We are not talking about Tibetan butter tea salt levels here. In the article it is recommended to use just enough salt to tone down the bitterness by blocking the bitterness receptors on the tongue, not so much that the tea actually tastes salty.

[–] Jajcus@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah 'make a better tea by making it taste less like a tea'. I have seen a lot of that from people who just don't like tea.

Though, for me that also include Brits, who spoil a good tea by adding milk ;-)

[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Though, for me that also include Brits, who spoil a good tea by adding milk ;-)

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[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

as far as I've heard the amount salt blocks bitterness is very individual, and doesnt work at all for some

[–] flicker@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I'll Chime in with my two cents that my experience with coffee and a pinch of salt really cuts the bitterness...

But I prefer bitter coffee so it's wasted on me.

[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Yeah, seems silly to discount something you've never tried just because it isn't what you're used to, but hey, that's the English way.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 years ago

Uh no, hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh bollocks. Any country with traditions are unlikely to respond well to beibg told they're doing it wrong. Tell Italians how to make pizza and see how they respond. Or try to tell the French anything

[–] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Well tea comes from China and Italian cuisine wouldn’t be jack-shit without the stuff they got from Meso-America.

David Bowie wrote a song about changes. It’s good. You should listen.

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[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If there only was a way to find out.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago

oh well, back to chewing dry tea leaves

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The bad point for the British is: The professor is actually right! At least on the accord with the salt.

I don't agree with her on another issue: She suggested to add milk after brewing. Nope. You don't add milk at all. Or worse, lemon juice. Milk murders tea. It basically kills the more interesting chemicals by binding them into a mass that can't be used by the digestive tract.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Where do you stand on sugar?

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

As someone with diabetes, I decline. But I am actually not opposed to someone using sugar. It does not react with the essential ingredients. Just don't overdo it, tea is not soda...

[–] SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago

Depends on the tea, some tea is to be made with milk, for example chai, and some can be made with lemon juice, but most teas are to be brewed and had as is

[–] ndru@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

You have piqued my interest on the thing of milk binding up beneficial chemicals. Can you elaborate?

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[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

I don't doubt this works because it definitely makes acidic/bitter coffee more palatable.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Meanwhile China is over there watching the west argue about a drink it invented millennia ago.

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

That's alright mate. I guess if I ever want advice on tea making, I'll speak to the Chinese.

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Salt in tea ... Your having a giraffe

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


LONDON (AP) — An American scientist has sparked a trans-Atlantic tempest in a teapot by offering Britain advice on its favorite hot beverage.

Bryn Mawr College chemistry professor Michelle Francl says one of the keys to a perfect cup of tea is a pinch of salt.

The salt suggestion drew howls of outrage from tea-lovers in Britain, where popular stereotype sees Americans as coffee-swilling boors who make tea, if at all, in the microwave.

The U.S. Embassy in London intervened in the brewing storm with a social media post reassuring “the good people of the U.K. that the unthinkable notion of adding salt to Britain’s national drink is not official United States policy.”

The product of three years’ research and experimentation, the book explores the more than 100 chemical compounds found in tea and “puts the chemistry to use with advice on how to brew a better cup,” its publisher says.

She also advocates making tea in a pre-warmed pot, agitating the bag briefly but vigorously and serving in a short, stout mug to preserve the heat.


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[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

What's wrong with the microwave? Heat is heat (except the 1995 movie which has little to do with heat or thermodynamics at all).

[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You could easily over steep it if you microwave it with the bag in it, but if you're just boiling water it shouldn't make a difference, other than being inefficient vs a kettle.

[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't think I would steep it in the microwave, but I could see myself boiling or reheating tea in it.

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[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I've never tried it but considering there's 3 different boil levels for steeping tea called inventively first, second and third boil.

Also the levels of oxygen in the water can affect the taste of the tea I would hazard a guess that microwaving water will create a fucking cupped abortion.

A microwave - no matter how clean - will probably imbue the water with 'extras'. Tea is extremely delicate. I swore I hated tea until one day aged 21yo a friend made me a cup and it turns out I'd been drinking tea wrong the previous 21yrs. It took another 5-6yrs for me to find my preferred tea making method. Everything from the cup to teapot and water hardness level. Whether it has additives in the water and how much. How long to steep for. Each tea can require different steeping times to get the right colour and taste.

Making GOOD tea right isn't as easy as people think.

[–] peterf@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It overheats it.

The water in a microwave when boiled forms small pockets of gaseous water whose temperature is more than 100 deg C, so it basically cooks the guts out of the tea.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

You boil the water in the microwave. Then pour it. Not with the leaves or the pouch in.

[–] JoShmoe@ani.social 2 points 2 years ago

I like the idea of using molten salt to heat up the water and leaves.

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