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[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 98 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Make sure to commit all fraud by US Post mail. This ensures your trial will be in Federal Court, which is much busier than your state's court, ensuring your case never gets heard!

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This according to my lawyer friend carries a maximum punishment of a million dollar fine and 30 years in prison.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Just send a bunch of nonsense to the Governor (or President I guess since we're talking about making a federal case) to get their letterhead then create a fake pardon for yourself

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Yeah, corporations and presidents are both known for personally responding through snail mail on official letterhead when sent gibberish.

[–] OrnateLuna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 years ago

Easy just do this trick after you gotten more than 2 million in loans. Spend 30 years in prison and retire

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wait, I'm not sure, does the federal court flag have a fringe on it?

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

GOTCHA! I, TheFriar, a Man, do hereby and solemnly state, forthwith and hereto, that I do declare and state that I, TheFriar, a Man, rescind and relinquish and reconfiscate my citizenship to THE UNIRED STATES, a corporation, because I, TheFriar, A Man, humbly do not recognize nor honor the code of said Corporation. Heretofore.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Well shit, I guess there's nothing we can do. We'll have to let you off the hook for pretty much everything.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Idk, I've been waiting on a date for my small claims case for over a year. I've called about it but just get told it'll eventually get scheduled. I've given up hope.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 56 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is one of the few times I'm rooting for the sovcit. Fuck credit-predators and this system can actually work

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

I think sovcit is a bit optimistic though.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Fortunately there has been much progress over the past 20 years and surely more to come. The fact that our grandparents/great grandparents put in a system to punish the poor just speaks to how shitty our history is.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean, weird culty citizens movement or not, most police and justice departments are incredibly hesitant to publish properly gathered crime statistics, for the reason that the vast majority of it is effective and goes without punishment.

You should not commit credit card fraud. However, the abov is the first few stops of social engineering. Adjust a couple emails and phone numbers. Get a non government PO boxin the right zip code. Etc etc ... and you could easily engineer their CRM to have all the right contact information you'll need to to when they go to verify something.

Humans are belief machines. We rely on how thing sound and feel, not if they are upheld by data or evidence. Managing those beliefs to get to specific outcomes is social engineering.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yep. Clearance rates are very low, the police actually do not do a good job at solving crimes. Their real value is in deterrent, but that only works when you have someone in a parked car outside a building.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

The police don't even attempt to solve crimes unless a lot of money was stolen from important people, or someone was murdered. All those TV shows and movies of the police performing amazing detective work to get to the bottom of a crime are bullshit. The police file a report, drop the file in the trash, and go to lunch.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 2 years ago

I don’t understand how this is supposed to work. I get the intent, but whatever. Guess it’s no crazier than quoting maritime law.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In some cases, this may actually work, but it's only going to be for low-level debt (i.e. low $$) that nobody is really too worried about. If it's anything worth anyone's time, they will pay attention and you will go down for fraud.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

yeah you can simply contest debt and they will remove it if the company does not respond to them timely.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

They say that the first thing you should do anytime you receive a collection request is to dispute it. If they can't prove the debt, it just goes away. You just don't need to commit fraud to do that.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

That's not always true. I spotted a legitimate error on my report and submitted adequate evidence to prove it is an error, and they just marked it as contested. They didn't even contact me afterwards. It's bullshit.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

That is bs. unless the other side provided equal evidence it should be removed.

[–] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Illegal lifehack