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[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 140 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It’s still funny, but parent licenses are step one of eugenics, and licenses protect fish populations, environment, parks, lots of good. If anyone’s really agreeing with the subtext, learn more about the dangers of both.

[–] Tvkan@feddit.de 22 points 2 years ago (3 children)

What are the dangers of protecting fish populations, the environment and parks?

[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 32 points 2 years ago

Fishes can bite

Environnement is scary

Parks have other people in them

[–] Baguette@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Licenses are a way to prevent people from overfishing populations. Certain populations have been overfished to the point of being endangered, and if a species gets erased out of an ecosystem, the overlying ecosystem gets thrown out of place depending on how key of a species the fish was.

There are some species the gov does not care about eg the invasive lionfish and asian carp

[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Thanks for more thoroughly explaining the benefits of parks and preservation efforts. Super import work. If you get a parking ticket for camping with your parks pass in your glove box, don’t dispute it if you can afford it.

I think they were joking about my clumsy phrasing, though

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago

and if a species gets erased out of an ecosystem, the overlying ecosystem gets thrown out of place depending on how key of a species the fish was.

Also if they were a particularly delicious species no one would be able to enjoy them anymore.

[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago
[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)

A little Eugenics never killed anyone

Can't die if they aren't born

[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Desecrating corpses never killed anyone. A lot of evil shit doesn’t result in death

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

six million people would probably disagree if they were still alive

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (8 children)
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[–] Knightfox@lemmy.one 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

In all honesty a little bit of eugenics probably wouldn't be a bad idea, the problem is that once you have government mandated eugenics you begin a slippery slope that should never be approached.

While not strictly eugenics, similar outcomes have occurred naturally in places where genetic testing and access to abortion are more available. For example Iceland has almost no Down Syndrome persons. (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/down-syndrome-iceland/).

Frankly, now that we can test for these things, there are several genetic disorders which a reasonable society would self select to remove from the gene pool. Things like Huntington's Disease shouldn't keep propagating. Basically there shouldn't be a government mandated program, but if you know you have some horrible genetic disorder you shouldn't pass it on.

[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

To be clear, I don’t think you’re advocating for eugenics. So I hope you don’t feel attacked/defensive by any of the following:

I can’t speak for anyone who’s living with an impossibly difficult disease, but the fact that so many people are living their lives, finding happiness, and making contributions despite everything they have to get through every day says enough to me that denying their right to exist isn’t solving a problem and is denying the world of their life.

The problem with eugenics (aside from the obvious history of racism) is that it’s looking at the problem from the wrong angle entirely. Instead of working to make things easier for people with disabilities and working towards cures, advocates for it think the problem is contained and solved by pruning the “problem” vines. We’re people, not produce. People that are neurodivergent, differently abled, or even severely disabled, all belong because we have enough to make room for them to thrive in whatever capacity they can. Whether we’re doing enough is a different conversation.

Iceland isn’t mandating people to abort chromosomal anomalies, that’s a choice the families make for themselves. So it’s beside the point. More so, it’s not like that can be eradicated either because anyone can parent a kid with DS. Huntingtons might be a valid concern, but sterization is a decision for those suffering it to determine themselves. That’s not eugenics.

Equating eugenics with family planning is irresponsible because it validates one very bad and widely rejected avenue of science because it’s slightly adjacent to a human right that is valid. Supposing that they are the same ignores history and risks spreading ideology that leads to making those same mistakes again.

TL;DR: GATTACA!

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 138 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Wait, you can get a license to fuck fish?

[–] tubaruco@lemm.ee 37 points 2 years ago

yes, thats what the vaporeon fans have that we dont

[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Lisensing fees are a suckers game, what you wanna do is go out into international waters. That’s why so many guys are posing with swordfish.

[–] shikogo@pawb.social 9 points 2 years ago

Hey guys, did you know that you need a license to fuck fish? Get yours now!😏

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

I've been fucking fish without a license for years. Come and get me, BIG GOVERNMENT!

[–] Numhold@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago

The actual question here should be if Troy McClure has one.

[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Give a man a life and he will be alive for the rest of his life.

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So true. We are all here for our whole lives.

[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If the rapture is 15 minutes late then we’re legally allowed to leave

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Technically they can’t rapture you if you don’t want to. You made no agreement with them.

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I made no agreement on the inbound but here I am idk

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago

Look, we’re all just a bunch travelers, we have no contracts.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

This is the best thing I've heard all day

Still in bed, but what a start

[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Give a fish a man and he will day for a fish.

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago

Give a gay fish and he will Ye all day

[–] TheCheddarCheese@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

that's a good wisdom

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 2 years ago (3 children)

You technically don't need a license to fish, but without one you'll have to do it in a way they won't know you're doing it. You may also have to do certain unpleasant things to avoid punishment.

The legal team would like you to know that this comment in no way endorses or encourages illegal activity

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 years ago

Fish in international waters, easy

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I dunno man you do NOT want to fuck with FWS Agents. They take to their jobs like zealots, rightfully so.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You don't need a license to fish with a fishing rod.

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Not true for a lot of places.

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[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I agree, we should have open season tags on babies.

[–] MashedTech@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What kind of caliber you think we'd need? I'm thinking 30-06

Not if you want to mount it. You need to use something smaller.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One increases a population while the other decreases it

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not if you raise a serial killer ; )

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[–] akariii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 years ago

friendly reminder to not fuck fishes

[–] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Why is this a link to a Google search? Not like, a video clip, or imdb quote, or article? There's even a duplicate word autocorrect.

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