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[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This bullshit comes up every five years or so and has done since the naughties. It goes like this.

  1. Government states they need a backdoor to encryption to stop terrorism/pedophilia.
  2. Privacy and tech groups say it's a bad idea, children's charities and anti-terrorist groups say it's a good idea.
  3. Someone in the Civil Service informs a top politician that if there is a backdoor, hackers will find a way in and that could mean leaks of things the government doesn't want the public to see like their affair with their intern or how they are doing to abolish devolution.
  4. They use an event to cover it up again.
  5. Next government, return to step one.

This has happened under Blair, Brown, Cameron, May, Boris, Truss wasn't around long enough (lol), and now Sunak.

It's funny because Boris Johnson is currently using an encrypted phone to stop giving evidence to the Covid Enquiry (namely his WhatsApp messages, yes, the UK government uses fuckin' WhatsApp.

We keep telling them it won't work, that it will only put the data of law abiding citizens at risk, but they don't listen and they keep playing the same game over and over.

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[–] botorfj@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

idk man i see that discord logo

whats that cube looking app with fdroid and obtainium?

[–] crystal@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago

GrapheneOS Apps

[–] halvar@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's one nice home screen. Shame we still have Discord tho

[–] samsy@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yes, and I only use it for some Linux support groups, don't know why they are not on matrix.

[–] exu@feditown.com 8 points 2 years ago

So many open source projects on discord unfortunately

[–] Haui@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because matrix is absolutely not there yet like lemmy and mastodon are.

I‘m an admin and a coder for roughly 20 yrs, yet it took me hours to understand matrix and elements. There is just not enough knowledge out there atm and the apps dont do a well enough job themselves imho.

[–] samsy@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Used matrix too. But for the next try I wait for dendrite is out of beta state. The bridges fucked me up. One reason I use beeper, lets doing the pros the fucked up bridges.

[–] Haui@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Makes sense. We‘ll see if matrix clients can catch up to the other two. Usability is what we need. Matrix has been around for a long time but so far I only see enthusiasts and privacy obsessed peeps talk about it. That needs to change.

[–] samsy@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If EU and others starts their hunt for breaking decryption, matrix could get more interesting. They wrote a blog article about being unable to break decryption of selfhosted instances.

[–] Haui@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

Yes, I agree. I recently read an article somewhere here about the web 2.0 being on the way out and the need of taking it back from the megacorps through decentralization. If you search for it I recon you‘ll find it.

[–] dauerstaender@feddit.de 14 points 2 years ago

Do not be afraid! You have nothing to fear, for you have nothing to hide, do you? /s

[–] allforthebest 13 points 2 years ago

You don't need to decrypt if it hasn't encrypted. (Discord)

[–] PaperTowel@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Love this, funny how we have a lot of similar apps, but Discord stays on the bottom row, it's hard to get rid of.

[–] zazaserty@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Man I wish I could uninstall it. It's just plain spyware, at least from my point of view, but everyone uses it. I wanna be part of society too you know.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Nobody I know uses Discord. It's an age/social circle thingy.

[–] ArcticLynx@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

is there an alternative frontend for discord

[–] MazonnaCara89@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

There are alternative client for discord but you can get banned for using them soo ¯_ (ツ)_/¯

[–] jackpot@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Quik2007@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I found it to be pretty difficult to get people to move to Revolt, more comparable with moving them away from regular social media than other messengers.

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[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

What are you, some kind of terrorist?

[–] samsy@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lol no. Just a privacy hardener. Idk it started with replacing all google stuff with nextcloud. And more and more I became free.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I might bite the bullet, and buy a Pixel tablet, to flash it with GrapheneOS. Lineage OS tablet support is pretty spotty lately. I use a Samsung SM-T720 that is doing well, but will die eventually.

[–] samsy@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes it's kind of annoying to buy a google phone to replace google. Lineage is good but they use some google stuff.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

GrapheneOS are sticking to Google hardware for security features and upstream support. I'd rather wish for a maximum privacy platform that doesn't leak anything to Google. I'm currently not aware of anything like that.

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[–] awesome_person@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

cmon you're almost there, you can self host everything!

(for the curious the icon pack is arcticons (f-droid))

[–] CondeMg@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I use it too and its beautiful!!

Edit: grammar correction

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[–] Zyansheep@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/RIuf1V1FhpY

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub.

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[–] goddard_guryon@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You got access to Beeper? Lucky bastard

[–] samsy@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] caboose20@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How long is the wait now? I've had it for a bit and I know they've been ramping up their onboarding.

[–] butmingus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I signed up 6 weeks ago, still nothing

[–] samsy@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

I wrote on another comment, got my invite after 500 days.

[–] goddard_guryon@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I've been waiting for almost a month now, and I've seen a few people complaining how they're in waiting list since multiple months (recent ones, i.e. after they announced lesser waiting time)

[–] ryonia@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm not sure I really get the pull. It seems to just be a matrix server with bridges and custom clients

They do have their work open sorced which is nice, but this all kinda just looks like what matrix is on its own. I guess the only advantage I see is maybe making things a little easier for more casual folks, but it does cost to...

[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Thanks for explaining what it is.

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So they just come home with a warrant and take your unencrypted hard drive that's self hosting all that apps

[–] samsy@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago

You think its unencrypted? Hah, nice try.

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[–] StewartGilligan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] samsy@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] StewartGilligan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Ayyyy... Cheers mate... 🥂 I've been using Mull ever since Bromite got abandoned.

[–] samsy@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

Graphene has vanadium, it's okay same (or better) like bromite. But it's chromium based, meh.

[–] hellishharlot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can someone give me a rundown of what those apps are?

[–] samsy@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Okay okay,

From up left:

Settings, K9-Mail, Tutanota, (Stores: GrapheneOS Store, Aurora Store, F-Droid Basic, Obtainium),

Simple Calendar, JTX, Aves Gallery, Camera,

OSMand~, Nextcloud, Immich, Paperless

Transportr, Nextcloud Bookmarks, Quillpad, Clock,

Termux, Bitwarden, Breezy Weather, Calc,

Material Files, ntfy, Simple X Chat, AdGuard Home (its a browser link)

Phone, Contacts, Mull, Discord, Beeper

My second page is full Lemmy Apps, haha.

For completion: wallpaper is one of KDEs Plasma 5.24 (maybe). And Icons are: Arcticons Dark. Android 13 Graphene OS.

[–] BaguetteSamurai@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago

I love Beeper, but the android app is so far behind the desktop app in terms of polish

[–] jackpot@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

what icon pacj is being used

[–] sicjoke@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I can identify at least four of those icons.

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