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Microsoft sets 16GB default for RAM for AI PCs – machines will also need 40 TOPS of AI compute: Report
(www.tomshardware.com)
what the fuck is a "AI PC"?
this post was submitted on 19 Jan 2024
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They get to put a sticker on that inflates the value by $600, then fill it with spyware.
sounds amazing
Found the shareholder.
It means “VC money now 🥺🥺”
Microsoft is chasing VC money now?
Branding. It's just saying it's capable of handling local models on copilot.
If I have to deal with Blockchain cloud computing IoT bullshit as a software engineer, I want everyone else to feel my buzzword pain in the tech they use.
The new 'VR Ready'
I guess a PC with a graphics card?
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At least it should result in less laptops being made with ridiculously small amounts of non upgradable RAM.
Requiring a large amount of compute power for AI is just stupid though. It will probably come in the form of some sort of dedicated AI accelerator that's not usable for general purpose computing.
And remember that your data and telemetry are sent to Microsoft servers to train Copilot AI. You may also need to subscribe to some advanced AI features
And that's when I'll start using Linux as my daily driver.
Honestly installing Ubuntu is almost idiot proof at this point.
I do agree with you, the obstacle is that there are many applications that are not available on Linux or they're not as powerful as on Windows. As for me is MS. Excel, many of my office clients use VBA in Excel spreadsheet to do calculations.
At least we might have a finally viable replacement in Photoshop soon. GIMP is getting NDE, Krita might be getting foreground extraction tool at some point, and Pixellator might have better tools though it's NDE department is solid. The thing is all of them are missing something, but I'm betting on GIMP after CMYK_Student arrival to GIMP development.
I tried adding foreground selection based on guided selection, but was unable to fix noises on in-between selection and was unable to build Krita. We would have Krita with foreground selection if it weren't for that.
I know that you are speaking truth, yet it still hurts
Apple: what's wrong with just 8GB RAM?
Yeah, and solder it onto the board while you're at it! Who ever needs to upgrade or perform maintenance anyways?
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no ai ain't gonna come into my pc
Unless it's locally hosted, doesn't scan every single file on my storage and doesn't send everything I do with it to the manufacturer's server.
They are making for a long time now, a massive slow effort to make end users finally migrate to Linux (and I’m a whole life windows guy)
Low amount of ram becomes the AI detox mechanism of this century.
Great, so it'll take AI to set 16GB as minimum.
I still shudder that there are machines still being sold with 8GB RAM, that's just barely enough.
It's honestly crazy to think about that we used to say the same about 4GB only 5-7 years ago...
And the same about 2GB a measly 10 years ago...
5 years ago I used to think 32GB was great. Now I regularly cap out and start page filing doing my normal day-to-day work on 48GB. It's crazy now.
AI PC sounds like something that will be artificially personal more than anything else.
I get visions of HAL or that Simpsons Halloween special with the sentient house.
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Makes sense, 16GB is sort of the new "normal" although 8GB is still quite enough for everyday casual use. "AI PCs" being a marketing term just like "AI" itself.
Opening excel and outlook on a win11 PC brings you to almost 16GB of memory used. I don't know how anybody is still selling computers with 8GB of ram.
That doesn't work even as a hyperbole. I literally just opened an Excel spreadsheet with 51192 rows (I had Outlook already open) and those two programs still only take 417 MB of RAM combined. Meanwhile Firefox is at 2.5 GB. Yes, my total RAM currently used is 13.8 GB but I have 64 GB of RAM installed and you should know that generally the more RAM you have, the more of it gets utilized by the system (this is true for all modern OS, not just Windows) which is a good thing, because it means better performance, since you can cache more things in RAM that would otherwise needed to be read from disk. Unused RAM is wasted RAM. So even if one computer uses 16 GB of RAM for some relatively simple tasks, it doesn't necessarily mean it wouldn't run or grind to a halt on a system with less RAM.
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Uh... No, it doesn't. 8GB is definitely tight these days, but for simple word processing, email, and spreadsheet usage it still works fine.
Why in the hell do those programs take up so much space?
Usually, caching. They can and do use less RAM if you have less free, at the cost of slower performance.
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Ah good. Now I know what specs not to buy.
You have fun sticking to ms running your 8gb of ram, that'll show em!
Is that teraflops?
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