Sorry, yes Elon Musk is the reason Twitter is shitting itself to death, but that doesn't make Elon the main person responsible for Naomi's problems. It's probably not even top 10. It's weird to call him out in this.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you can't understand the article: musk is blamed for making twitter shit and abandoned. Wu was on twitter, and she said it was a platform where she could be seen and supported, and this audience was protecting her, because a famous person would not disappear without it making noise.

It is an indirect responsibility, but a big one nonetheless.

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Wu’s activity on Twitter declined well before Musk took over ownership.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's Lemmy, the sentence "and why I blame Elon Musk" is basically the unspoken rule of everything.

Now don't get me wrong, he's a POS businessman just trying to manipulate the market into a profit for himself, but if there's no reasonable way to blame him for something and it seems like you're just going "thanks Obama!" It's getting old.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 2 points 2 years ago

Skepchick.org is Lemmy now?

[–] yuki2501@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I read a Twitter post of hers a few years ago where she was extremely apologetic towards China, saying that Americans listened to a lot of propaganda and so on. Now I'm starting to wonder if it was really her who made that twitter post.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

I wouldn't doubt it. How many Americans apologize for our system despite the long history of continuing genocide. Overthrowing governments, occupying countries, or just funding international terrorism. How about British colonizers?

I'd still say the US is better, but only just. Naomi has seen a lot of improvement with society there in her life. I don't have the video where she went into detail handy. Or know if it is even still up. But it's worth a watch if you haven't seen it. Are things great there? No. But they are much better for many of them despite their oppressive government.

Unfortunately Naomi's S.O. is uyghur. And despite all the progress minorities like her have seen in China, uyghurs haven't. And even her mild criticism of the government over it. Brought their ire.

[+] Marsupial@quokk.au -24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Nah that sounds like her

I’ve been aware of her for a long time, even before she started looking like a freak and she was always a pro-China shitheap who’d shit on the west.

Good riddance frankly. Let her enjoy her better country.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wow, what a disgusting asshole you are. Though, what do you expect from an Australian.

[+] Marsupial@quokk.au -9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You support authoritarians, I don’t support you. It’s that simple. She made her choice years ago, now she can live with the consequences.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I never said I support China, but I also don't blame a lesbian dating a minority woman from a group who is actively being ethnically cleansed by the Chinese government for doing what she has to do to survive. She's been blackbagged multiple times over the years and the government watches what she says very closely. And I also don't blame her for opposing Westerners who apparently often just tried to use her as a tool to support whatever narrative they were trying to spin at the time and then criticize her for bringing up issues she faced that didn't support their narrative.

That would be like me saying that you made your choice when you decided to live in a country founded by a British prison colony, and now you can live with the consequences. Which is where I was sarcastically going originally, but I think the comparison would've been lost on you.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not you you, you as in her (or anyone else who would). And I've known of her from when her works first popped up on HackADay, before China was clamping down on Uyghurs, before she went into the extreme body modding, etc. I've disliked her longer than the majority of you known she even existed.

But hey make it racist, keep talking about westerners and what not. Show your real colours.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I made it racist because you bodyshamed her, called her a freak, and then said she deserves to be silenced, kidnapped, possibly killed along with her girlfriend, and whatever other horrible things the Chinese government can come up with. All because you don't like her. I fail to see the difference between racism and what you said. Which was my point in going that route.

I'm a trans woman in the US. My life expectancy is 30 years due to suicide rates and how commonly we end up murdered. My colors are supporting minorities against oppression, regardless of whether or not I like them or agree with them.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You fail to see a difference between hating someone for being born vs hating someone for supporting genocidal regimes?

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago

No, I fail to see the difference between hating someone for being born and supporting the actions of a genocidal regime against a person because you don't like them.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 20 points 2 years ago

I really hope we'll see her again some time.

[–] skhayfa@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Authoritarian due to intrinsic insecurities always cut heads that rise a little bit above

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Fuck, loved watching her content and back when Kaidi first showed up I was hoping they could just get the fuck out.

Turns out, she can't leave anyways. Damn :'(

[–] ShindangAp@lotide.fbxl.net 3 points 2 years ago

It's interesting to think that if Wu had more love in the West that the Chinese authorities would have been more slow to crackdown on her...

I think we all remember back in 2017 or so when the Hong Kong protests were at the forefront of everyone's mind and, still, the crackdown continued, and the resistance was crushed.

And what has China's response to the popularity of the Ukraine war been? To question its generally positive relations with Russia? No, not at all. China shores up its own front against Taiwan and its trade with Russia is growing exponentially. BRICS gets stronger.

China will not bow to popular Western opinion no matter what. Blaming Musk for this is pretty asinine.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

We now understand the inherent value of a social media platform. We have yet to figure out how to build a space that doesn't hand control over to a private entity that only has profit in mind.

Sorry, we can't yet place the blame solely on the billionaires who own the platforms. We have to create safe heavens away from moneyed interests than protect and maintain them.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Iirc MakerMuse mentioned her disappearance in a video quite a while ago. I don't understand the article well, has she resurfaced silenced or is she still missing?

Wasn't a great fan of Naomi's outfits but she made great videos. With the Amber B1 robot arm she was the only one calling out the kickstarter company was a bit sketchy and not just blind advertising it.

[–] BuccaneerScientist@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago

The post is from August, last year. I was confused as well.

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 1 points 2 years ago

I read the whole thing and then saw that she's continuing to prop up the same platform and same platform model she blames. Make it make sense.