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"Imperialism only counts if it's Western, otherwise it's just sparkling liberation" (media.kbin.social)
submitted 2 years ago by PugJesus@kbin.social to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world
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[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 48 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Me getting banned from lemmygrad entirely for calling this shit out.

Oh man, that reminds me I have a screenshot of a tankie saying "mark my words, Ukraine will not exist in 1 month" from like... 3 months ago? And I really wanna follow up on that but I don't think my sarcasm will play well with their essay writing sign up process.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago

It's insane. It's international politics as team sports.

Oh man, that reminds me I have a screenshot of a tankie saying “mark my words, Ukraine will not exist in 1 month” from like… 3 months ago? And I really wanna follow up on that but I don’t think my sarcasm will play well with their essay writing sign up process.

They'll just say something along the lines of "Well right now Russia is ACTUALLY fighting NATO and Ukraine has ceased to exist, so checkmate, shitlib"

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago

I had a guy on reddit WAAAY back when the war was just starting (when it was clear they would invade, but either had not yet or had literally just begun hours before) tell me all the Ukrainian citizens had to do was not resist and accept their Russian citizenship, the Russian soldiers were their ethnic bretheren, it would all be over nearly bloodlessly in three days, and of course Putin would not harm anyone if he didn't have to.

I was in disbelief that he believed this was true, or that he could believe there was any possibility they'd just stand by and let themselves be invaded. A month or so later I dug out the thread and called him out for his ridiculous bullshit (which had already been ridiculous bullshit when he first said it) and he gave me some version of "any bloodshed is the fault of Ukraine" and cursed me out.

I fathom neither how anyone sees Ukraine as anything other than the victim in this war, nor how anyone could ever have thought this would be quick and bloodless.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I bet this will drive the hexbear users up the wall.

Luckily, I have their instance blocked in my user settings so I don't have to listen to their drivel.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Same.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Instance block is the best fucking feature to come to lemmy for years...

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago

Absolutely.

[–] Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 2 years ago

I've been trying to keep an open mind about the hexbear people even if I disagree with them a heap. One thing I don't understand is the constant defense of their stances with 'critical support' I can buy into some of their arguments but like, shit, I hate the west, too, but I'll 'critically support' them and their non aggression pact over whatever the hell Russia is doing.

[–] febra@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Be it the US, Russia, China, or whatever. All imperialism sucks. Let people live however they see fit between their own borders. This is why I never understood tankies. Why call out US imperialism but stop short at calling Russia out

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's no communism without liberation from capitalism. The reactionary communists-in-name-only serve the capital with their support of Russia/China/etc

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There is a long way to go, both in the war and after it, but I wish all the best to those fighting for a better Ukraine

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Like even at best do these people have anything else going on in their life holy shit.