Came up with this late at night. Not while being anywhere near a laptop though.
I don't care for the RGB in itself I like the backlight so it's easier to see the keys in the dark
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I've tilted my screen down to try to illuminate the keyboard too many times
DJs, Astronomers, lightning technicians at venues, dark scientists etc, so many people require a backlit keyboard for hobby or work
Radiologist checking in.
But ... sometimes it's dark
Desktop: don't care, keyboard is standardised
Laptop: less-used keys can be different sized or in different positions. I want that shit backlit so I can find where they've shifted those keys to
Many laptops are made with the US ANSI layout and other layouts like UK ISO are either shoehorned in at the final design stage or relegated to shuffling symbols around and requiring both Fn+Shift to type a character that used to have its own damn key. I'm not salty.
I like to see them in the dark
OP is the guy on the left but thinks they're the guy on the right.
I genuinely don’t get the love for RGB things.
I don’t know why people like them, why they always have those weird cycle modes, and a lot of them flicker or actually cycle at a fairly slow rate which is distracting.
I can see my keyboard at night, and the keys get buffs based on the color.
I don't know that the high prevalence of RGB items on the market necessarily reflects a love for it. I think it just means it's cheap to produce and can be marketed as an extra feature.
GN recently mentioned that apparently there's a demand for water coolers with screens on them (even tho they cost more) so manufacturers are making more such models. Extrapolate to rgb
I would genuinely pay more if I could get high quality hardware that wasn't infected with rainbow RGB nonsense.
Most RGB peripherals I've owned I was able to toggle completely off.
I'm also not an RGB enjoyer, I usually just set it all to the same static color, on the lowest dimness.
White
I'm a soft, light lavender RGB on white peripherals kind of guy.
Lavender is nice too!
Purple here for a while now. Maybe it's time for a change.
Yes, you can turn them all off...
...if you install 3 different resource-hogging, data-harvesting RGB lighting control programs on your PC and have them run at startup.
I'm not that pissed off about RGB. But it should be off by default.
White by default would be ok in theory, but in reality they all vary in brightness and colour temperature, so that looks jarring too.
E: lmao ok people, simp for the corporations
I don't need rainbow rgb, but a nice, dim, through key white backlight is very valuable on a laptop that's used regularly
Thats silly too. Just turn off the rgb feature. I built a new pc last year, it has plenty of parts that could do the disco lighting but I turned it off on most of them, and opted for a static white glow on the keyboard. Completely fine this way
The problem is that each part manufacturer wants you to install their shitty RGB control software that is often bizarrely resource-hogging, and sometimes even used for data gathering.
On laptops, some RGB control software can eat your battery away by a fair bit because the CPU never goes into a lower power state.
RBG should A) all conform to a standardised open API, and B) be off by default.
Ditto. Unfortunately the grown up stuff is either worse quality business class hardware or ridiculously expensive boutique stuff. If you're just looking for a case though, Phanteks makes great, mature builds
Is "business class" just a simile here? Because normally, the hardware sold to businesses is of a better quality (albeit also expensive).
Maybe I'm just making a wrong differentiation between what I'd call business class and what I'd call enterprise class. In my comment, I was specifically picturing those garbage soft click keyboards that ship with Dell, HP, etc. Desktops
Ah right, yeah, those are crap. I really don't get why companies are willing to cheap out specifically with keyboards.
Like, it's the tool your workers use all day. Even if they just type 5% faster on a proper keyboard, that pays for itself in no time.
kbdfans.com
I browse the web at night, I want to see what I type. It's as simple as that!
Or just learn to type without looking
All the cool kids use the lamp
This is some Gameboy brick edition attachment level. Just needs the magnifier screen to slide over it.
Why would I need letters at all?
Another Infinity Ergodox run needs to happen.
YES. I would order ~3 more just for redundancy. If this one breaks, I dont know what I'm going to do.
I'd almost have to one-off a few custom pcbs and laser cut everything myself.
I don't need to look at the most common keys or the letters; but some of the weirder ones I don't use often, I might have to actually look at the board for. Having them backlit helps see when it's dark. 🤷🏻♂️
I don't need LED keyboards, but with open source software I can get that shit synced up with so many other pretty things like my computer LEDs, headset, speakers, aquarium, toaster oven, zen garden, and maybe even my mouse.
A little bit of an exaggeration, but younger me would totally rock a neon punk look if I had the budget for fashion, which I still don't have.
My keyboard does not require backlit keys because I am a power user.
My samsung laptop has no way to change the backlight from Linux so it stays off. If only there were a way to this in a standardized way (acpi) samsung?
I just wish they wrote the function key text in a bright colour so I can see it in low light…
I look at my keys when I type and I’m not ashamed of that. I always have, since Oregon trails on 5.25 floppy in the early 90s.
I could probably train myself out of it, and I can type whole sentences without looking, but only with the 6 fingers I normally use, rather than the full 8 most people use, and it’s a fucking chore. Frankly, it seems like a massive waste of mental resources to learn to type without looking, and I actively resisted learning it in typing classes in middle/highschool. I’m not doing data entry, so whatever I’m writing is a creative process, and that benefits from sight. I get eyes on what I’m doing while I’m doing it, and again when I check it over. It worked out very well for me when I started typing in Cyrillic, I just added transparent stickers. Homework was a breeze; I was looking anyway! :)
Yes I fucking want backlit keys. Even if just for when I’m laying in bed at a weird angle and can’t see the key layout, or sitting in a dark room. I would want them in a drunken stupor, too, even tho I use my phone for that browsing, which is backlit by default.
In summary, backlit keys are the shit. I spent a gob of money on a backlit, rechargeable, wireless keyboard, and I regret nothing.
I've had this ErgoDox for, like, 6 years. It has underlights, but no backlights, but also no home row keys. The entire time I've owned it, in the dark I've struggled to find the home row, often taking seconds to find my finger placement by feeling the edges of the keyspace. It's been a constant source of irritation, but it never occurred to me to just buy some home row caps.
Anyway, I was tidying up to office the other day, and found a little packet that came with the keyboard containing home row caps. FML, but with a silver lining, right?
In the process of swapping out those two caps, I completely broke the J switch. So now I'm (temporarily) using a Kinesis Gaming keyboard and learning an object lesson about how utterly miserable row stagger is.
My point is that backlighting would probably have saved me a lot of grief; not as much as home row keys, but still better than nothing.
I need backlit keys so I can see from outside my office if I have left my pc on at night. Very important.
I never sought them out. The laptop just came that way.
Y'all got any more of those 2008 HP office desktop keyboards?
I need backlit keys for the function keys and the other non-letter keys
Also accents (not in english obviously)
Me switching from a gaming keyboard to a keychron: