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Canadians worry US democracy cannot survive Trump's return to White House, poll finds
(www.reuters.com)
Many Americans worry too, Canada.
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I worry how fucked we are. Like are we all gonna get a slim and slender dill pickle unfavorably shoved up our poop cutters OR are we going to get a giant prickly cactus shoved brazenly right up to our colons?
well trump has shown to be a staunch enemy of democracy, the constitution and the rule of law
So do actual Americans.
Some. But not two-thirds, unfortunately.
So does the world
In case you're here for the first time, reading this comment, and you blacked out from 2016-2020, Donald J. Trump is a fascist demagogue, who speaks directly to Russians about internal US affairs including classified info and has said that if re-elected, he will become a dictator. The GOP's plan to dismantle the executive branch and replace staffers with Trump loyalists has been laid out and available for all to read, entitled "Project 2025". His children admitted to meeting with Russian intelligence officials in Trump Tower to discuss undermining the 2016 election. He called Mexicans rapists and drug dealers, was best friends with the world's most famous pedophile, mocked a disabled reporter in front of thousands of people (and on national TV), he lied that he would lower taxes on the working class and instead raised them, he illegally demanded clandestine investigations into the Biden's as blackmail for military aid to Ukraine (hmmmm I wonder what Donald learned from Putin during their hangouts...), and he let millions of Americans die of COVID by repeating lies that contradicted the real science of the pandemic. The laundry list is massive. He's not fit to be president of anything and he belongs in jail.
"This could be our last election" is something I've been hearing since Republicans were freaking out of Clinton in 1996. We do it literally every four years, depending on who is coming and going.
Trump's deplorable were going to dominate the country after '16. Obama's ACORN was going to take over the election system if he won in 2010. Bush was going to send all the Democrats to Gitmo back in 2006. The SCOTUS guaranteed a Democrat would never win again, after 2000.
His children admitted to meeting with Russian intelligence officials in Trump Tower to discuss undermining the 2016 election.
I am so tired of hearing how Russia stole the '16 election, when you had governors in Florida and Texas and New York and Ohio and Georgia and Arizona and Wisconsin and Colorado dumping people off the voter rolls as fast as they could find an excuse. If you want to talk about stolen elections, go look up Operation Eagle Eye) which guaranteed Arizona's growing Hispanic community would be denied a seat at the table for decades thanks to future Supreme Court Justice William Rehnquist.
Or ask what happened to Don Siegelman, the last Democrat to serve as governor in Alabama.
Or just look up the Brooks Brother's Riot
Pinning this shit on The Evil Foreigner when we're perfectly willing and capable of stealing elections right here at home is asinine.
My grandfather drove a tank in WW2, a cousin of my grandmother went down on the HMS Hood. My family survived the blitz.
Now I'm sitting in Canada watching America gleefully become the new nazi fatherland and it's terrifying. Watching your neighbour embrace fascism with open arms... words cannot describe the amount of disappointment I have right now.
Yeah so do like half of Americans myself included.
Right here with them. It's kind of scary how close we had come before, but it's even scarier to think that there's a good portion of Americans who are like, "Yes, we've had first Trump term, what about infinite Trump terms?"
It's not doing very well without him, definitely won't survive with him. Tired of voting for slower erosion of democracy rather than having the option to vote for expansion of democracy. The US is not long for this world as a democracy. We'll soon have Putin style "Democracy".
Due to global hegemony if US democracy falls so does world democracy
I doubt everything would tumble like a house of cards, but it would have a severe destabilising effect on the rest of the world absolutely.
I think that is a tad dramatic. The other democracies aren't lambs surrounding by wolves.
I'm guessing the 36% that didn't see a problem with Trump were Conservatives who had to much lead paint in their diet as children.
They aren't alone
Yes Trump will annihilate whatever semblance of democracy we have left in the United States. He plans on suspending congress, consolidating the courts, and expanding his ability of the executive branch without any checks and balances. He will begin to supercede democratic state governments, and the courts will rule in his favor or he will make them. He will sack any military official that doesn't align with his agenda, and deploy them domestically, even if just to instill fear in dissidents. Furthermore he'll transfer full control of the federal reserve to his office. Slowly eroding our constitutional rights and then he'll even extend his presidential term by another ten years.
This is what you will get if you vote for Trump.
Turns out, explicitly shutting out any options other than mid-but-increasingly further right or furthest-and-now-saying-the-quiet-part-out-loud right wasn't the healthiest decision for voters to be have a say in policy.
Everyone keeps telling me it's my lefty ass' fault we get fascism, but dems already did their fascism on me when Bernie won a primary and got told to eat a dick, then the dems went to court and told their voters to eat a dick.
But yep it's MY fault I don't vote dem.
Ahhh, some people still think political systems which are power duopolies were voters only get to vote for style of entertainement (morality subjects) but never for the actual management of all those things that determine Quality Of Life, are Democracy.
That's so cute...
Mind your own business Canada. You've got way bigger problems to deal with than worrying about us