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[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Is this the 2023 version of this article?

or the 2022?

or the 2021?

or the 2020?

...

or the 2012?

[–] YMS@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago

Yeah, an article with such a headline should be banned from all news-themed communities since 2016 at the very latest, when he proclaimed that autonomous driving is a solved problem.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I recall he claimed fully automated driving would be ready by 2016, and back then I actually believed him.

When other makers said the technology was at least 5 years away, and probably more like 10, I thought they were losers who couldn't compete.

LOL apparently I too was an idiot for believing Musk, My wife and I even bought a house in the country, where driving a car is a must for shopping and daily life in general, in confidence that we soon would have fully autonomous cars.

1 thing is for sure, when we finally switch to fully electric cars, there is zero chance they will be Tesla, and that's not because he made 1 mistake.

[–] johsny@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wow, he looks so wise in that photo. You would never know that he is actually an idiot irl.

[–] BobKerman3999@feddit.it 7 points 2 years ago

Reminds me of Arrested Development and the magazine picture

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe if you used LIDAR you'd have self-driving cars by now, you moron.

[–] BobKerman3999@feddit.it 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Regardless, he's saying this stupid shit for more than 10 years now. Self driving cannot be solved without an artificial general intelligence because there has to be an understanding of what other people are going to be doing

[–] fearout@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Eh. You can probably solve it with a good enough artificial narrow intelligence. Or/and dedicated infrastructure, inter-car communication protocols, etc. The issue is it's solving the wrong problem altogether.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Years ago (maybe still) Microsoft had a research facility for self-driving infrastructure. Instead of putting all the recognition and awareness in the car itself, a lot of it was offloaded the mini city they built. Streets and stop signs with embedded RFID, etc.

This, of course, doesn't stop pedestrians from dying. But I thought it was a cool approach to the problem to "update the world" instead of trying to make a product that navigates our unmodernized infrastructure

[–] BobKerman3999@feddit.it 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

At this point wouldn't it better to just build railway for trams?

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Maybe, though trams only work in town. I couldn't go see my family with a tram but I could put my self-driving city car in manual and take it out past the cornfields.

I think a lot of things have to change outside of major cities for public transportation to really take off as a concept here. There is SO much "empty" space in the US, it's hard to imagine getting infrastructure out there that mainly only benefits a handful of people

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

If there was dedicated lanes/infrastructure it might be possible but makes more sense for cities to improve public transportation. A bus/train is a big fancy car powered by a general intelligence.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tesla CEO optimistic on Nazis and white supremacists.

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 14 points 2 years ago

Billionaire CEO realizes that he needs investor capitol, tells same story as previous 10 years.

[–] yip-bonk@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

“Tesla CEO”. lol

[–] extant@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Doesn't seem far fetched for bots to self-drive Tesla's since the bots are self-driving Twitter.

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