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The US transportation secretary announced on Wednesday afternoon that no grounded Boeing 737 Max 9 would return to service “until it is safe”, after Alaska Airlines announced the cancellation of all flights on its 737 Max 9 planes at the direction of the Federal Aviation Administration.

Pete Buttigieg said he was “not putting a timeline” on when the FAA will allow the planes to resume flights.

Every plane that the US aircraft manufacturer delivers “needs to be 100% safe”, Buttigieg added.

He said he has spoken to the head of Boeing and told him the company needs to do everything it can to establish 100% confidence in its planes.

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[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 76 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Two groundings in less than 5 years? Boeing is trading lives for share price. Hopefully the company dies as an example of corporate greed.

[–] GregoryTheGreat@programming.dev 45 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Riiiiiiight. They’ll get bailed out at worst.

[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Someone's seen this episode before.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 years ago

would have to cut into that sweet defense spending first …

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Every insider said this the last time they had issues with the Max 8. Now here we are again. It absolutely infuriates me. I work for a medical device company in procurement. I've had to deal with these asshats coming in and recommending outsourcing and screwing our local vendors to save a few bucks... Then, surprise! We get shit parts, and it costs us a ton of resources to fix the issue, but hey we're"saving money" right? Some companies shouldn't be publicly traded.

[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But I was told any option but unhindered capitalism was pure communism.

Jesus, politicians need to grow a pair and actually help people. What do you need to do to convince them?

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Defenistration.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Same where I work. I feel like I am fighting a losing battle to keep us in control of our own products.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

It's like the first scene in fight club, where he's talking about the insurance equation. That shaped my world view then. It's accurate.

Now if only cars had this kind of safety rating.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Boeing is in a death spiral. Instead of a company run by engineers saying hey let’s build something new that pushes boundaries and the market will buy.

They now have a bunch of finance guys who say hey let’s squeeze another few billion in profits out of an existing product. Wait the new existing product doesn’t sell as well as our projections? Let’s cut costs so we can maintain profit growth for our shareholders and get those sweet bonuses.

[–] rem26_art@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Worst decision Boeing could have made was buying Mcdonnel Douglass, who was doing poorly, and then letting the people in charge of Mcdonnel Douglass (who, did I mention was doing poorly) run Boeing

[–] arin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Probably insider trading by the executives to get richer

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's happened/happening to every major company ever.

I'm not sure what the solution is, but publicly traded companies will always make inferior products, because the incentive for a good product is always after profit.

[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

IMO, make all companies employee owned instead of investor owned so the decisions are made by those with stake in keeping the company going, not those that want to milk it for infinitely increasing profit that outpaces inflation despite having reached their market cap.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Why were unsafe planes in the air before this incident Pete?

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To be fair the FAA didn't know they were unsafe. Now that they do know Boing wants to keep flying then until they figure out the fix and the FAA is saying no.

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago

It's not like the front of the plane fell off, which is obviously not safe.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The US transportation secretary announced on Wednesday afternoon that no grounded Boeing 737 Max 9 would return to service “until it is safe."

[–] yannic@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

Good Lord, of course they're grounded until it is safe This isn't like putting your kid in timeout.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ummmm was that not implied? It's upsetting that he felt the need to say it.

Like your waiter dropping off your burger, saying "don't worry, nobody spit in it."

[–] arin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

More like there's no needles in it... Used ones with HIV

[–] jennwiththesea@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

This is what happens when you move your headquarters out of Seattle. Just saying...