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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 60 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also, 'Negro' isn't the N word. Capital N Negro was the preferred term for decades, up until the Malcolm X era.

[–] Mint@lemmy.one 38 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Also that word in bunch of languages still means black person

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 years ago

Can confirm for Spanish.

[–] Kwakigra@beehaw.org 21 points 2 years ago

Context: During the Haitian Revolution, France hired Polish mercenaries to go to Haiti and help with putting the slave rebellion down. After arriving, the Polish mercenaries immediately recognized they had much more in common with the other people being oppressed by major European powers and joined the revolution on the Haitians' side. After the revolution and because of some of the most severe international sanctions in world history (many of which are still in effect to this day), the Polish mercenaries were now completely Haitian and were legally declared "black" by the new Haitian government.

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

That man is a true revolutionary, like Washington and Bolivar, of the Americas.

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Then it's settled. I have Polish heritage and therefore posses the N-word pass.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah, so that's where the Lemmy dev's screen name comes from. Neat.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

I was alarmed at their screen name before learning they're Polish

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

After that, Dessalines got murdered.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

And still after that, he admined Lemmy, history is crazy.

[–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

Isn't Vaush/Ian Kochinski like part-Polish? That makes the N-word incident not problematic.

[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I was only recently learned that Haiti and Jamaica are in North America...

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Politics and culture have more weight than pure geography. Haiti is better described as part of the Caribbean, which like the Pacific Islands, is almost it's own thing. Geographically, it's more North than South American, but that distinction isn't useful for understanding it. The Americas can be broken down into the zones of Central, North, South, and the Caribbean. Culturally, it can best be divided in two as English America and Latin America. The traditional North vs South line betrays how the US and Canada relate to every other American country.

I wish we legally recognized overlap with our geographic categorization. Eastern Europe overlaps with both Europe and Asia. North and South America overlap in Central America and the Caribbean. The Middle East overlaps with Asia, Africa, Western Europe, and Eastern Europe. Regions really aren't exclusive.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Anyone want my pass? I feel like I'm not gonna use it.

[–] ichmagrum@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] tty5@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Napoleon sent polish troops to fight a slave rebellion, poles declared they were supposed to fight for freedom not against it and changed sides.