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[–] Lubricate7931@feddit.uk 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Too many generalisations made about vegan v meat eating alternative land use i feel. Dont doubt any of the studies but the assumption that you can flip land use from animal farming to other agriculture isn't always that straight forward as the land and environment isn't always suitable.

Maybe coordinated land use optimization based on local enviroment and food provision would be a more sensible approach.

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[–] Classy@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Oh look, another article pointing the finger at the meager consumption habits of citizens and completely ignoring the massive ocean of CO2 production by large companies.

Don't people get tired of seeing this same argument being made? The amount of carbon produced by barges carrying cargo over the Atlantic so far greatly exceeds the consumption of many millions of people every single day but I'm supposed to feel guilty for eating a piece of steak today instead of some semi-edible "impossible meat" bug protein?

ETA: Nice, my first blowup since leaving reddit. Very refreshing to see some people arguing passionately. I appreciate the vigor and the quality of argumentation, everybody. The quality of discourse here is so much better than on reddit.

I'm willing to admit the "semi edible impossible meat bug protein" gamut was a bit tongue in cheek, but I recognize how it can sound genuine. I do think Impossible Meat is disgusting, but that's neither here nor there.

I eat plenty of plant matter and I regularly forage in the local forests to learn about edible plants. But I'm not going to stop enjoying steak just because it might put a bit more CO2 (why do people keep writing it as C02 online?) into the atmosphere. If removing subsidies and putting more pressure on the meat industry to be less wasteful, less environmentally impactful and more ethical towards animals causes steak to rise to $40/lb as some here have stated I'll gladly pay.

FWIW, I get my steak from local farms that are free range and grass fed. Grass feeding is healthier for the cow than the typical grain, it produces less CO2 and the steak is better quality. Plus the cows are better taken care of. Again, thanks for the great messages (generally).

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[–] EmperorHenry@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (15 children)

Do you want to REALLY cut down on pollution? Stop giving free money to the giant corporations that are causing the most of it.

I'm not going to be vegan and I'm not going to eat bugs. If the corporations want to stop climate change, the corporations are causing the most of it.

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