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Hi all,

I'm seeing a lot of hate for capitalism here, and I'm wondering why that is and what the rationale behind it is. I'm pretty pro-capitalism myself, so I want to see the logic on the other side of the fence.

If this isn't the right forum for a political/economic discussion-- I'm happy to take this somewhere else.

Cheers!

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[–] Talaraine@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The problem is not 'Capitalism'. It's the JACK WELCH brand of Capitalism, the one that tears apart the soul of any company that produces goods and turns it into a robot for profit with the sacrifice of any meaningful corporate planning or infrastructure (including workers) investment.

Until THIS ends, Capitalism is, in fact, an evil.

Edit: Honestly. Please. Look up what Welch did to GE and how it spread to every other corporation. It's EYE opening.

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[–] Droptherock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think that I hear the argument against capitalism the most from people who reference unskilled labor. Sure, the person working in a warehouse is getting screwed wage-wise because the company is greedy and they doesn't have a unique skill set. But the guy in the office that is maintaining a proprietary piece of software has the leverage to demand a higher wage. I think when it comes down to it, capitalism is just another version of the economic "game". I prefer this game to socialism (or really any other economic philosophy) as I know how to work the current system better. Don't want to get screwed in your career? Specialize! I understand a lot of people don't want to hear this as it puts the impetus on us instead of the rich,, but that's how the system works (for now). I will always be on-board with people wanting to better themselves and their situation (especially at the expense of the rich) but getting something for nothing just isn't realistic without massive mobilization of the lowest wage earners. Not to mention the hurdles in our government.

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[–] Kushia@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

I'd say that unless you are pretty wealthy then you're pro- something designed to optimally exploit you while making you think that it's the greatest system on Earth and that society can't possibly do any better.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Lemmy.ml was started by tankies so that would be why there is little love for market capitalism on this server. Oddly enough, many seem perfectly fine with state capitalism like China has.

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[–] dan1101@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think capitalism is fine to an extent. It's when companies become too large that their scale and power enshittify things.

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[–] r3v79klo@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

It isnt about capitalism or sociallism but the education level of people running the system.

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because they've never seen well regulated Capitalism nor been educated on it as all we get in the US is Corporate propaganda on Capitalism to justify the hellscape the wealthy make the most money from.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The US is a hellscape? Why do we have such immigration pressure in that case? People aren’t immigrating to the US so that they can be elites. They’re immigrating here because the low tier they will have in society is better than their previous life.

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[–] const_void@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Why be pro any *ism or *ist? Why not be pro *ance?

[–] pseudo@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Comments on a self-professed tankie instance

"BuT wHy Is EvErYoNe RiDiNg TaNkS"

This is LEMMY.ML, mister. Also, everything everyone else is saying.

[–] TrivialBetaState@sopuli.xyz -2 points 2 years ago

I don't get the same impression in my community. I'm pretty sure that we all love capitalism in "millionairs@lemmy.lm" What communities do you waste your time on?

[–] Nemo@midwest.social -2 points 2 years ago (8 children)

You know that the .ml in lemmy.ml stands for "Marxist-Leninist", right?

[–] Metaright@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This sounds like a really dumb rumor. Do you have evidence?

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